Author: martin fierz
Date: 16:43:48 10/11/02
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On October 11, 2002 at 17:28:08, Jeremiah Penery wrote: >On October 11, 2002 at 17:20:31, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On October 11, 2002 at 17:00:43, martin fierz wrote: >> >>>On October 11, 2002 at 00:25:27, K. Burcham wrote: >>> >>>>My question is, separate from all of this technical discussion, do you have >>>>several moves that you have studied with todays programs that you know these >>>>programs cannot find? >>> >>>perhaps it's more about moves that deep blue did not find: like h4? in game 1, >> >> >>I do not think that another move could change the result and >>I do not think that deeper blue could play better. >> >>I did not read that deeper blue had fortress detection in it's evaluation. > >The game was drawn before h4 was played. We can't say whether DB would have >done better in avoiding the drawing setup, however. you are (very very) probably right about that the game was drawn before h4. but this is not the point. it was easily drawn after h4. which means that h4 is a mistake even if kramnik would have drawn the game otherwise, because it gave away the advantage that white had. i didnt mean to say DB would have avoided h4. i just wanted to say that DF played a bunch of weak moves up to now, and that i do not know of any moves which are as bad that DB2 played in the match against kasparov. aloha martin >>I do not say that it is a proof but only an evidence. >> >>The test against kramnik is biased because kramnik knows the specific weaknesses >>of deep fritz when Kasparov did not know the specific weaknesses of deeper blue. > >In 1996, he didn't know the specific weaknesses of DB1. By the 6th game, it >sure seemed like he had a good handle on them - he made DB look silly in that >game. Does it look like he was able to find any real weaknesses in DB2? Maybe >a little bit, but it wasn't enough for him to win.
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