Author: Otello Gnaramori
Date: 09:45:47 10/12/02
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On October 11, 2002 at 17:37:37, Terry McCracken wrote: >On October 11, 2002 at 16:47:42, martin fierz wrote: > >>On October 11, 2002 at 16:30:33, Daniel Clausen wrote: >> >>>On October 11, 2002 at 16:15:21, Otello Gnaramori wrote: >>> >>>[snip] >>> >>>>That is exactly what is missing in those games just seen in the match >>>>Kramnik-DF... "the chess beauty" ! >>> >>>Game #2 was a fantastic game in my opinion. You seem to apply that "chess >>>beauty" is equal to incredible queen sacs and whatnot. >>> >>>Sargon >> >>i have often noticed that what people find beautiful in chess depends on their >>understanding of chess. to somebody who plays no chess at all, nothing is >>beautiful. to weak players, a queen sac forcing a mate in 2 is beautiful. to >>average players, a classic like Bxh7+ Kxh7 Qh5+ Kg8 Ng5 and mate in all forms is >>beautiful. for strong players, there is no beauty there - it's just routine. >>i have noticed that the stronger i got at chess, the more i could appreciate >>other forms of chess beauty. most of the 1600 hacks who post here can't enjoy >>those DF-kramnik games as much as i do. hmm, instead of complaining they should >>work on their chess :-) >> >>there's a nice anecdote on this thing: kasparov was once on german TV and they >>asked him about such a Bxh7 position - i'm not sure if he could see the board or >>not, i think not. it was a forced mate in 8. they wanted to show the viewers who >>knew nothing about chess that kasparov would see a mate in 8 in a split second, >>blindfolded. but he didnt! he was confused, and didnt give the solution in a >>second like anticipated. what happened? he thought: it was an obvious mate in 8 >>- how could they ask him to solve something as trivial as that? so he just >>refused to answer IIRC. 99 of 100 chess players would be glad to find a >>beautiful combination, but kasparov was insulted by it :-) >> >>aloha >> martin > >LOL! But point well taken! Hi Terry, Martin just wanted show us his undeniable superiority in chess (...showing also a bit of arrogance ), but I'm not completely convinced that he doesn't appreciate the beauty of a combination or an amazing sacrifice, since they are quite commonly appreciated among any categories of players in spite of Martin's claim. Regards, Otello
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