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Subject: Re: Comp-comp vs. comp-human: no difference!

Author: Torstein Hall

Date: 14:10:07 09/02/98

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On September 01, 1998 at 20:43:04, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On September 01, 1998 at 17:09:51, Torstein Hall wrote:
>
>>On September 01, 1998 at 14:35:24, Mark Young wrote:
>>
>><BIG SNIP>
>>
>>>I agree we need more data, but because of this crafty bug and how much it did
>>>differ in performance against humans and computers has to raise a few alarm
>>>bells in our faith of computer Vs computer testing. Who is to say that there
>>>could not be a program that could perform wonders playing humans, but could not
>>>win a game against computers, without having a bug. The Crafty results makes
>>>computer Vs computer testing very suspect in my eyes. If the goal of chess
>>>programming is still to beat top human players.
>>
>>If you keep improving against other computers you are still improving and
>>perhaps you can reach the goal ( to beat top humans ) in the end. Even if you
>>did not go the shortest route!
>>
>>Torstein
>
>
>Not necessarily...  one idea is to take the top 3-4 programs on SSDF and auto-
>play against them day in and day out, and tune for best results.  And there's
>nothing in doing this that will have any influence on beating humans, unless
>they happen to have the same weaknesses you tuned against on the other programs,
>which is unlikely...

If thats was all they did, it would not give anything but commersial improvments
I guess.

But I hope there has been some software improvments the last 10 years!

If it was all hardware, why not just use CM 2K and wait for the next prosessor?

Torstein



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