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Subject: Re: How about.....

Author: Odd Gunnar Malin

Date: 14:57:05 10/13/02

On October 13, 2002 at 17:51:58, Terje Vagle wrote:

>On October 13, 2002 at 17:48:09, Odd Gunnar Malin wrote:
>
>>On October 13, 2002 at 17:31:03, Terje Vagle wrote:
>>
>>>Did Deep Fritz have a winning position?
>>>
>>>[D]2N3k1/5p2/1p4pp/4n3/4Q3/4P1PP/q4PK1/8 b - - 0 34
>>After 34...Qe6 (or 34...Qa5) 35.Nxb6 Qxb6 36.Qxe5
>>You get the queen ending that the GM/IM was evaluating as a draw.
>>
>>I tried to play this out with CT14 against Shredder 6 and it ended in a draw in
>>both cases.
>>
>>Odd Gunnar
>
>Deep_Fritz(C) - Kramnik(GM)
>2N3k1/5p2/1p4pp/4n3/4Q3/4P1PP/q4PK1/8 b - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Fritz 7:
>
>34...Nc4 35.Ne7+ Kf8 36.Nd5 Kg8 37.Qe8+ Kg7 38.Qc6 Kg8 39.Qb5 Qe2 40.Nxb6
>  ²  (0.56)   Depth: 9/24   00:00:00  314kN
>34...Nc4 35.Ne7+ Kf8 36.Nd5 Kg8 37.Qf4 Qc2 38.Nf6+ Kg7 39.Ng4 Kf8 40.Qxh6+ Ke8
>41.Qh8+ Kd7
>  ²  (0.56)   Depth: 10/26   00:00:00  603kN
>34...Nc4 35.Ne7+ Kf8 36.Nd5 Kg8 37.Qf4 g5 38.Qd4 Qb3 39.Ne7+ Kh7 40.Nf5 Kg6
>41.e4
>  ²  (0.56)   Depth: 11/28   00:00:01  1306kN
>34...Nc4 35.Ne7+ Kf8 36.Nd5 Kg8 37.Qh4 Qc2 38.Qd8+ Kh7 39.Nf6+ Kg7 40.Ne8+ Kf8
>41.Nd6+ Kg7
>  ±  (0.81)   Depth: 12/33   00:00:04  3081kN
>34...Nc4 35.Ne7+ Kf8 36.Nd5 Kg8 37.Qh4 Qc2 38.Qd8+ Kh7 39.Nf6+ Kg7 40.Ne8+ Kf8
>41.Nd6+ Kg7
>  ±  (0.84)   Depth: 13/36   00:00:10  8054kN
>34...Nc4 35.Ne7+ Kf8 36.Nd5 Kg8 37.Qh4 Qc2 38.Qd8+ Kh7 39.Nf6+ Kg7 40.Ne8+ Kf8
>41.Nd6+ Kg7
>  ±  (0.84)   Depth: 14/37   00:00:25  19233kN
>34...Nc4 35.Ne7+ Kf8 36.Nd5 Kg8 37.Qh4 Qc2 38.Qd8+ Kh7 39.Nf6+ Kg7 40.Ne8+ Kg8
>41.Nd6+ Kh7
>  ±  (0.81)   Depth: 15/39   00:00:56  43346kN
>34...Nc4 35.Ne7+ Kf8 36.Nd5 Kg8 37.Qh4 Qc2 38.Qd8+ Kg7 39.Qf6+ Kg8 40.Ne7+ Kf8
>41.Nxg6+ Qxg6
>  ±  (0.81)   Depth: 16/42   00:03:12  152145kN, tb=1
>34...Nc4 35.Ne7+ Kf8 36.Nd5 Kg8 37.Qh4 Qc2 38.Qd8+ Kh7 39.Nf6+ Kg7 40.Ne8+ Kg8
>41.Nd6+ Kh7
>  ±  (0.81)   Depth: 17/43   00:08:36  409779kN, tb=1
>
>(Vagle, Stavanger 13.10.2002)

Yes, but if Black want a draw he should exchange Knights, right?. Check what
Fritz answer after Qe6. If this follow the line Nxb6 Qxb6 Qxe5 you could get a
higher score for White, but is it possible to win?

Odd Gunnar

I know what kramnik feared in this ending.. robert flesher 19:08:01 10/13/02
- Re: I know what kramnik feared in this ending.. martin fierz 21:49:55 10/13/02
  - Re: I know what kramnik feared in this ending.. George Sobala 04:29:44 10/14/02
    - Re: I know what kramnik feared in this ending.. Chessfun 06:09:00 10/14/02
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        Re: what is the theory on 4-3 with queens? Dan Andersson 15:31:08 10/14/02
        
        Re: what is the theory on 4-3 with queens? martin fierz 16:20:20 10/14/02
        
        Re: what is the theory on 4-3 with queens? Dan Andersson 16:57:25 10/14/02
      - Re: I know what kramnik feared in this ending.. Sune Larsson 07:00:03 10/14/02
      - Re: I know what kramnik feared in this ending.. Chessfun 06:11:41 10/14/02
  - Re: I know what kramnik feared in this ending.. James B. Shearer 00:21:21 10/14/02
    - Re: I know what kramnik feared in this ending.. Jonas Cohonas 02:24:37 10/14/02

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