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Subject: Re: "Deep Blue ..." in 1995

Author: Odd Gunnar Malin

Date: 01:19:46 10/14/02

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On October 14, 2002 at 04:04:30, Ingo Althofer wrote:

>In the log-files of the ICC hour with Feng Hsiung Hsu
>the following passages can be found:
>
>> EeEk(* DM) kibitzes: I heard that Fritz did
>> play a match against Deep Blue in Hong Kong
>> 1995,according to one of the Fritz programmers,
>> is this not true?
>> CrazyBird(DM) kibitzes:
>> false advertisement. deep blue does not exist
>> until 1996. the new chip was not completed
>> until january 1996...
>>
>> ...
>>
>> EeEk(* DM) kibitzes: question from oddg: Back to
>> the WC 1995, There was an entry with the name
>> Deep Blue (Fritz won against DB), did it not have
>> any relations to your Deep Blue? (EeEk: any idea
>> how Deep Blue's name got in there, is this
>> completely false?)
>> CrazyBird(DM) kibitzes: deep blue did not play in
>> 1995, since it did not exist yet.
>> it was just deliberate relabeling on the part of
>> commercial vendors, for obvious reasons.
>

You cliped a bit to early, here are the rest of his answer:

"
CrazyBird(DM) kibitzes: the program played was deep thought ii. which
was vastly inferior to deep blue in chess knowledge as well search
speed (1000 to 1 ratio in effective speed, 100 to 1 in raw speed)
CrazyBird(DM) kibitzes: and we were as unlucky as kramnik is today:).
"

Odd Gunnar
>
>I had a look back into the June 1995 issue of the
>ICCA Journal and found the following data which
>might clearify things:
>
>* On p.97ff the contestants of the Hong Kong World
>Championship are described. One of them is
>"Deep Blue Prototype   by Feng-Hsiung Hsu, ..."
>
>* On p.102 the Final Standings are given, with
>"Pos.3  DEEP BLUE   USA  ...."
>
>* On p.130 of the same issue there is an announcement:
>   "The ACM Chess Challenge
>   World Champon Kasparov to play IBM's DEEP BLUE"
>In this announcement it reads
>"DEEP BLUE is being developed at the IBM ... by
>Feng-Hsiung Hsu, Murray Campbell and Joe Hoane,
>under the supervision of Chung-Jen Tan. An earlier
>version of the system won the 1994 ACM International
>Computer Chess Championship at Cape May, New Jersey."
>
>
>So, the name "Deep Blue (Prototype)" was not a
>"deliberate relabeling on the part of commercial
>vendors" but the official name in 1995.
>
>Ingo Althofer.



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