Author: Harald Faber
Date: 04:43:32 10/14/02
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On October 14, 2002 at 04:04:30, Ingo Althofer wrote: >In the log-files of the ICC hour with Feng Hsiung Hsu >the following passages can be found: > >> EeEk(* DM) kibitzes: I heard that Fritz did >> play a match against Deep Blue in Hong Kong >> 1995,according to one of the Fritz programmers, >> is this not true? >> CrazyBird(DM) kibitzes: >> false advertisement. deep blue does not exist >> until 1996. the new chip was not completed >> until january 1996... >> >> ... >> >> EeEk(* DM) kibitzes: question from oddg: Back to >> the WC 1995, There was an entry with the name >> Deep Blue (Fritz won against DB), did it not have >> any relations to your Deep Blue? (EeEk: any idea >> how Deep Blue's name got in there, is this >> completely false?) >> CrazyBird(DM) kibitzes: deep blue did not play in >> 1995, since it did not exist yet. >> it was just deliberate relabeling on the part of >> commercial vendors, for obvious reasons. > > >I had a look back into the June 1995 issue of the >ICCA Journal and found the following data which >might clearify things: > >* On p.97ff the contestants of the Hong Kong World >Championship are described. One of them is >"Deep Blue Prototype by Feng-Hsiung Hsu, ..." > >* On p.102 the Final Standings are given, with >"Pos.3 DEEP BLUE USA ...." > >* On p.130 of the same issue there is an announcement: > "The ACM Chess Challenge > World Champon Kasparov to play IBM's DEEP BLUE" >In this announcement it reads >"DEEP BLUE is being developed at the IBM ... by >Feng-Hsiung Hsu, Murray Campbell and Joe Hoane, >under the supervision of Chung-Jen Tan. An earlier >version of the system won the 1994 ACM International >Computer Chess Championship at Cape May, New Jersey." > > >So, the name "Deep Blue (Prototype)" was not a >"deliberate relabeling on the part of commercial >vendors" but the official name in 1995. > >Ingo Althofer. Hsu... well... he wouldn't be a friend of mine. Everything he says seems to be doubtful. DB Jr. 10-0 vs. other commercials where NOONE ever has seen the games except... guess who... yes, Hsu. Now denying the loss in 1995, of course it was "just a prototype absolutely not comparable with real DB". Nonsense. And honestly speaking, I do not believe 50% of what he says or writes. It is all about things noone else has ever seen, proven or whatever.
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