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Subject: Re: Behting position

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 09:05:39 09/03/98

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On September 03, 1998 at 09:09:45, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>This is not such a freakish case. There are hundreds of games with King+Queen
>vs. King+pawns. An example among many:
>
>Benko-Byrne, 1958
>7K/3P1P2/8/7P/8/8/5P2/kq6 b - - 0 62

It is not my experience that these positions are very common.  Are there any in
the SSDF games?

>>Hopefully I am not also sacrificing the non-freakish cases.
>>
>>Genius seems to have some stuff in it that lets it find some null-move killer
>>positions quickly.  I'm surprised that Shredder finds it.  I don't know about
>>Rebel.
>
>But this was my point when I posted this position. Genius, Rebel, Shredder, CM5K
>and others find quickly the right move, and don't tell me they are not
>nullmovers. But maybe more accurate nullmovers than others?

Perhaps some of these simply turn null move off in positions with low material,
and what you might be seeing is a difference in the material threshold between
the different programs.

Everyone has their own method of dealing wth low-material zugzwangs, but I think
that it is wrong to assume that overall endgame strength is somehow dependent
upon handling these zugzwangs properly.

bruce



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