Author: martin fierz
Date: 18:09:42 10/14/02
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On October 14, 2002 at 21:02:53, Dieter Buerssner wrote: >On October 14, 2002 at 20:45:31, martin fierz wrote: > >>i don't think any 6-man endgame without pawns is important! as you say, most of >>them are rather trivial. i can't think of any of them which would be really >>interesting - > >I believe, when you study the TBs, you will find many "interesting" positions. >This should mean: they are not trivial. The ones I looked up are far to >difficult to be really interesting for me. > >>in all the years i have played chess i have never had a single >>game which ended in such an endgame! however, RP-RP and QP-QP and and things >>like NPP-R or BPP-R can show up from time to time. > >I remember one game of my engine, where a pieceless 6-men EGTB could have been >helpful. I believe it was KRBKBN, but I am not sure. (If anybody should be >really interested, I will probably be able to find that game) I am sure, that >that TB was not available from Hyatt's ftp. Also, I am sure, that my engine lost >that game :-( I could look up online the positions from Ken Thompson's "TB-site" >(http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/ken/chesseg.html). > >Indeed, the game was theoretically lost, when reaching the material >constellation. The win however was not trivial at all. Later in the game, there >was the possibility of draw (only because of the 50 moves rule, without this >rule, all positions in the game at that phase would have been lost). hi dieter, you are probably right that things like KR+minor - K+2minors may have some interesting positions. i would have thought that since K+minor - K+rook is a draw (in all "normal" cases), the additional minor pieces help the weaker side and make most of these endgames very drawish - but perhaps that is a bit superficial :-) my assessment "not interesting" was aimed more toward the probability of these things ever turning up, compared to 6-piece endgames with pawns. aloha martin >Regards, >Dieter
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