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Subject: Re: ok, let's play Man vs. Machine events in top secret bunkers only

Author: Mike S.

Date: 22:19:59 10/14/02

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On October 14, 2002 at 20:54:21, Rolf Tueschen wrote:

>And what do you think about the
>justification he must find for the 1 million dollars prize money?
>Here you can see that he's just part of the PR campaign.

You mean he has to care for that Fritz doesn't look too weak? I can't imagine
that... he's busy enough to care for himself against a very dangerous opponent.
Also, even if Fritz would look bad then and when, Kramnik is the last one to
blame. He has not to fear that Fritz looks bad, but that he looks bad (i.e., if
such a blunder would happen a seconde time, that's what he must fear).

>But as you know I see you in the
>same boat more or less working for CSS. You are not independant, or? I ask that
>because I can read elsewhere that journalists of CSS are not independant.

I write for CSS more or less regularly, but not very much, as one of the regular
contributors (not employees; this might be a translation error :o). That can't
be called dependancy really. I also have kept my independent opinions and views.

An example: I usually don't review major programs, but when the Fritz chess
server was created I participated in the beta test. Since I had written a small
article about ICC and other chess servers before (basics only), a was asked by
CSS to compare their features with the new Fritz server's features. Among some
positive new ideas, I found - as it was to expect (!) - the Fritz server being
somewhat behind ICC or Chess.Net with some features missing. That's what I wrote
with examples, and so it was also published.

Who of CSS asked me to write that, can you guess?

>As you could see in games 1-4 Fritz could take 1 to 2 points perhaps. But the
>points are less important than the quality of his play. And I think we saw what
>a stupid prog Fritz is. It's good for training of course and I like it.

After seeing that Fritz seemingly can't harm Kramnik when queens are exchanged
early (something which could be said about Kasparov too probably :o), I did a
database statistic (comp-comp games only though) how an early queen exchange
influences the engine's score each. It turned out especially Junior 7's white
score drops then, from 58% to 25%. I couldn't acknowledge that yet with another
games collection, but the number of games wasn't small, 799.

>(...) what was the result of Alterman against all the progs at the Maastricht
>Wch?????

GM Alterman scored one win and 4 draws from eleven games of that clock simul,
IOW. 3,0/11. Some of his losses were on time. I think it was more an
entertainment event... I couldn't say if his, or the computer's performance was
good or bad under these unusual conditions.

Regards,
M.Scheidl


P.S.:

>(Please read http://hometown.aol.de/rolftueschen/11.html about
>Realitätsverlust.)

(for once in german:)
Ich habe hineingeschaut. Vor allem, abgesehen vom Computerschach-Inhalt, finde
ich ehrlich keine gute Idee den Jakob-Fall als Beispiel heranzuziehen,
unabhängig davon ob er theoretisch geeignet wäre, beispielhaft Realitätsverlust
zu zeigen oder nicht. Das ist problematisch... einerseits ist so etwas zu ernst
um mit Erörterungen über Brettspielsoftware verbunden zu werden, andererseits
hat sich Computerschach das ja sicher nicht verdient, daß Ansichten darüber
anhand einer solchen Sache illustriert werden. Bei mir kam speziell das
unangenehm an. Oder der Computerschach-Abschnitt paßt nicht dazu. (Den Fall
Schön, oder Böhm (?), kenne ich nicht.)



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