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Subject: Re: Victory for Computer Chess (!) = Waterloo

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 18:23:47 10/15/02

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On October 14, 2002 at 22:14:58, Rolf Tueschen wrote:

>On October 14, 2002 at 21:46:06, stuart taylor wrote:
>
>>On October 10, 2002 at 20:24:23, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>>
>>>On October 09, 2002 at 21:35:21, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 08, 2002 at 13:33:33, Omid David wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>[D] 8/4k3/8/p1p1p1p1/P1P1P1P1/8/2B1K3/8 w - - 0 1
>>>>>
>>>>>If a human can't see the draw here, he is an idiot. If a program can't see the
>>>>>draw here, it's no less idiot (at least not an "intelligent agent", but a "dumb
>>>>>agent"). And that's the case with all programs at this stage. So we -- the
>>>>>computer chess community -- have still a long way to go, to reach our goal of
>>>>>proving that computers can play better than humans.
>>>>
>>>>As soon as computers can search 100 plies in a few seconds, in very simple
>>>>positions, they will see this is a draw in a few seconds too.
>>>
>>>If you see this position at the leaf node of a tree, you want to evaluate it
>>>statically as a draw, or it does you no good.  If the only way to see a draw in
>>>this kind of position is to search 100 plies, it's still program stupidity. :)
>>
>>True, but that would be its weakest point, and chess might already be solved by
>>such a computer.
>>S.Taylor
>
>If it would be solved then there still could be such weak points?
>
>Rolf Tueschen

That might be its weakEST point, and even that will have been solved.
S.Taylor



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