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Subject: Re: Oh - What Joy!

Author: Graham Laight

Date: 08:34:08 10/16/02

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On October 16, 2002 at 10:20:12, Terry Ripple wrote:

>On October 16, 2002 at 09:51:23, Graham Laight wrote:
>
>>On October 16, 2002 at 09:11:52, Terry Ripple wrote:
>>
>>>"Memorization" doesn't prove intelligence!! I was just doing some research on
>>>this topic and this was fully explained.
>>
>>It's not enough to say what intelligence isn't.
>>
>>If you want to convince us that machines aren't intelligence, then you have to
>>stipulate what intelligence IS.
>>
>>-g
>>----------------------------------
>>“Intelligence is the ability to face problems in an unprogrammed (creative) manner.”
>
> Intelligence exists as a very general mental capability involving ability to
>reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn
>quickly and learn from experience.
>
>" Now show me where a computer can do all this? "

Obviously, there isn't yet a computer that can behave like a human.

However - all of the above items CAN be done. Lets go through the list:

* very general mental capability

I would argue that human capability is not "very general", but that rather we
have a lucky combination of special skills that has allowed us to advance way
beyond normal animal lifestyles.

I would further argue that many AI techniques have widespread applications, thus
making them "very general".

* ability to reason

computers can do analogical reasoning, case-based reasoning, deductive
reasoning, genetic-algorithm reasoning, rules-based reasoning, neural reasoning,
mathematical reasoning, game-theory reasoning and abductive reasoning - to name
but a few.

* plan

Computers can do route planning, and are an essential tool in modern project
planning. They can do numerous other types of planning as well.

* solve problems

See "ability to reason" above. Oh - and they solve chess problems as well  :)

* think abstractly

Computers think more abstractly about chess than any human ever will. They don't
even get to see the REAL chess board!

* Comprehend complex ideas

This equates to having expert knowledge on a subject - which computers clearly
can have

* learn quickly/from experience

Many types of AI system can do that, including Genetic Algorithms and Neural
Networks

There. That's dealt with that list.

-g


>Regards,
>      Terry



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