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Subject: Re: To Johan De Bock : Kramnik resigned a Drawn Position??? Take a look!

Author: John Merlino

Date: 14:17:30 10/16/02

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On October 15, 2002 at 15:51:19, Mark Young wrote:

>[d]2r5/6kp/Rp6/3n4/8/1p4P1/5P2/4R1K1 b - - 0 35
>
>Not an easy win for sure...Fritz could not beat Fritz at 1 min a move. Is there
>a win with best play??
>
>
>Fritz 7 - Deep Fritz 7
>P4-2530MHZ-1GB, 40'/40+40'/40+40' P4-2530MHZ-1GB (1), 15.10.2002
>
>35...b2 Both last book move  -2.91/13  13  36.Ra7+  -3.16/16  1:36  Kg6
>-2.94/14  18  37.Rd7  -3.09/16  1:16  Rc1  -3.00/14  15  38.Rd6+  -3.19/18  1:48
> Nf6  -3.03/16  15  39.Rdd1  -3.19/17  50  b1Q  -3.13/15  19  40.Rxc1  -3.19/14
>12  Qf5  -2.84/15  1:45  41.Rc4 (Rc6)  -3.22/14  1:07  41...Qd5  -3.13/14  1:05
>42.Rb4  -3.25/14  1:04  Qc5  -3.25/15  1:28  43.Reb1  -3.28/15  48  Nd5
>-3.25/16  1:23  44.Rb5  -3.44/14  44  Qc4  -3.38/16  2:10  45.R1b2  -3.44/14
>1:20  Kf5  -3.47/15  1:32  46.Rb1 (Kh2)  -3.53/14  1:03  46...h5  -3.44/15  1:27
> 47.R1b3  -3.59/14  1:11  Kg4  -3.56/15  1:19  48.Kh2  -3.72/15  1:09  h4 (Qd4)
>-3.59/14  56  49.gxh4  -3.75/14  53  Qd4  -3.59/14  1:37  50.Rg3+  -3.66/14  51
>Kxh4  -3.63/15  1:19  51.Rh3+ (Rf3)  -3.81/14  45  51...Kg4  -3.72/14  39
>52.Rg3+  -4.00/14  2:25  Kf4 (Kf5)  -3.69/14  40  53.Kg2  -3.91/14  57  Ke4
>-3.72/13  51  54.Kg1  -4.09/13  53  Qd2 (Qd1+)  -4.13/13  1:23  55.Rb1  -4.28/13
> 1:01  b5  -4.22/13  1:32  56.Rg2  -4.41/14  1:20  Kd4  -4.38/13  50  57.Rxb5
>-3.12/13  57  Nf4  -4.22/12  20  58.Kh2  -2.97/13  40  Qe1 (Nd3)  -2.94/11  20
>59.Rb8  -2.94/13  39  Kd5 (Kd3)  -2.75/12  48  60.Rd8+  -2.75/13  1:22  Kc5
>(Kc6)  -2.09/13  1:09  61.Rf8  0.00/14  42  Ne6  0.00/14  48  62.Rf5+  0.00/14
>23  Kb4  0.00/15  47  63.Rg4+  0.00/14  24  Kb3  0.00/15  57  64.Rf3+  0.00/14
>36  Ka2  0.00/16  1:20  65.Re3  0.00/15  53  Qd1 Draw accepted  0.00/15  49  ½-½

Here is what Chessmaster 9000 said, playing itself at 5 min/move on a P4-2.66
(pondering off, of course). Watch the evals sink slowly into the West....

[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2002.10.16"]
[Round ""]
[White "CM 64 NP"]
[Black "CM 64 NP"]
[TimeControl "?"]
[Result "*"]
[Setup "1"]
[FEN "2r5/6kp/Rp6/3n4/8/1p4P1/5P2/4R1K1 b - - 0 35"]

35...b2 {00:00 {Score: -2.13, Depth: 8/14}} 36.Ra7+ {01:25 {Score:
-2.13, Depth: 7/13}} 36...Kg6 {02:34 {Score: -2.09, Depth: 8/14}} 37.Rd7
{03:42 {Score: -2.13, Depth: 8/14}} 37...Rc1 {05:34 {Score: -2.11,
Depth: 8/14}} 38.Rd6+ {05:14 {Score: -2.18, Depth: 9/15}} 38...Nf6 {
07:17 {Score: -2.19, Depth: 9/15}} 39.Rdd1 {06:39 {Score: -2.16, Depth:
8/14}} 39...b1=Q {09:41 {Score: -2.14, Depth: 8/14}} 40.Rxc1 {07:50
{Score: -2.21, Depth: 6/13}} 40...Qf5 {13:23 {Score: -2.21, Depth: 7/13}
} 41.Rc4 {13:54 {Score: -2.15, Depth: 7/13}} 41...Qd5 {17:11 {Score:
-2.24, Depth: 6/12}} 42.Rf4 {19:31 {Score: -2.24, Depth: 7/13}} 42...Qc6
{21:54 {Score: -2.18, Depth: 6/12}} 43.Rd1 {26:40 {Score: -2.27, Depth:
7/13}} 43...b5 {26:07 {Score: -2.26, Depth: 6/12}} 44.Rd3 {30:09 {Score:
-2.25, Depth: 6/12}} 44...h5 {30:35 {Score: -2.35, Depth: 6/12}} 45.Kh2
{41:30 {Score: -2.52, Depth: 7/13}} 45...Qc5 {33:50 {Score: -2.49,
Depth: 6/12}} 46.Kg2 {46:04 {Score: -2.58, Depth: 7/13}} 46...b4 {38:21
{Score: -2.64, Depth: 7/13}} 47.Kg1 {49:12 {Score: -2.64, Depth: 6/12}}
47...Nd5 {42:45 {Score: -2.60, Depth: 7/13}} 48.Rxd5 {53:42 {Score:
-2.64, Depth: 8/14}} 48...Qxd5 {44:35 {Score: -2.56, Depth: 9/15}}
49.Rxb4 {55:45 {Score: -2.50, Depth: 12/16}} 49...Kf5 {49:03 {Score:
-2.45, Depth: 13/17}} 50.Rf4+ {59:15 {Score: -2.53, Depth: 12/16}}
50...Ke5 {50:54 {Score: -2.44, Depth: 12/16}} 51.Kh2 {01:02:49 {Score:
-2.44, Depth: 12/16}} 51...Qd1 {55:26 {Score: -2.37, Depth: 12/16}}
52.Kg2 {01:06:43 {Score: -2.44, Depth: 12/16}} 52...Ke6 {58:22 {Score:
-2.36, Depth: 11/15}} 53.Re4+ {01:10:28 {Score: -2.28, Depth: 11/15}}
53...Kf5 {01:00:05 {Score: -2.24, Depth: 11/15}} 54.Rf4+ {01:14:48
{Score: -2.29, Depth: 12/16}} 54...Ke5 {01:01:40 {Score: -2.23, Depth:
11/15}} 55.Rh4 {01:17:49 {Score: -2.21, Depth: 11/15}} 55...Kd6 {
01:06:26 {Score: -2.11, Depth: 12/16}} 56.Rf4 {01:21:56 {Score: -2.02,
Depth: 12/16}} 56...Qd5+ {01:09:20 {Score: -2.02, Depth: 11/15}} 57.Kg1
{01:23:55 {Score: -2.04, Depth: 11/15}} 57...Ke6 {01:14:11 {Score:
-1.98, Depth: 12/16}} 58.Kf1 {01:27:19 {Score: -1.95, Depth: 12/16}}
58...Ke5 {01:17:20 {Score: -1.91, Depth: 11/15}} 59.Kg1 {01:31:07
{Score: -1.95, Depth: 12/16}} 59...Qc6 {01:20:29 {Score: -1.82, Depth:
13/17}} 60.Kh2 {01:33:54 {Score: -1.86, Depth: 12/16}} 60...Qb7 {
01:24:20 {Score: -1.77, Depth: 13/17}} 61.Kg1 {01:37:09 {Score: -1.80,
Depth: 12/16}} 61...Qa8 {01:28:07 {Score: -1.74, Depth: 13/17}} 62.Kf1 {
01:40:35 {Score: -1.77, Depth: 12/16}} 62...Qa3 {01:31:46 {Score: -1.74,
Depth: 12/16}} 63.Kg1 {01:44:00 {Score: -1.67, Depth: 12/16}} 63...Qc3 {
01:35:31 {Score: -1.67, Depth: 13/17}} 1/2-1/2

For those of you who don't want to see all of the timing, eval and depth info:

[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2002.10.16"]
[Round ""]
[White "CM 64 NP"]
[Black "CM 64 NP"]
[TimeControl "?"]
[Result "*"]
[Setup "1"]
[FEN "2r5/6kp/Rp6/3n4/8/1p4P1/5P2/4R1K1 b - - 0 35"]

35...b2 36.Ra7+ Kg6 37.Rd7 Rc1 38.Rd6+ Nf6 39.Rdd1 b1=Q 40.Rxc1 Qf5
41.Rc4 Qd5 42.Rf4 Qc6 43.Rd1 b5 44.Rd3 h5 45.Kh2 Qc5 46.Kg2 b4 47.Kg1
Nd5 48.Rxd5 Qxd5 49.Rxb4 Kf5 50.Rf4+ Ke5 51.Kh2 Qd1 52.Kg2 Ke6 53.Re4+
Kf5 54.Rf4+ Ke5 55.Rh4 Kd6 56.Rf4 Qd5+ 57.Kg1 Ke6 58.Kf1 Ke5 59.Kg1 Qc6
60.Kh2 Qb7 61.Kg1 Qa8 62.Kf1 Qa3 63.Kg1 Qc3 1/2-1/2

CM seems to weigh in with the 41.Rc4 crowd, BTW....

jm




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