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Subject: Re: Missed Draw by Kramnik

Author: allan johnson

Date: 16:58:31 10/16/02

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On October 16, 2002 at 17:29:59, Bob Durrett wrote:

>On October 16, 2002 at 17:20:20, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On October 16, 2002 at 16:44:08, Joachim Rang wrote:
>>
>>>On October 16, 2002 at 16:20:55, Bob Durrett wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 16, 2002 at 16:09:06, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On October 16, 2002 at 15:51:29, Joachim Rang wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On October 16, 2002 at 15:23:12, Ingo Althofer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Now feature article at the official event site
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.brainsinbahrain.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ingo Althofer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>amazing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I can't believe it...
>>>>>
>>>>>I also do not understand it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Kramnik is not a computer.
>>>>>
>>>>>I could understand computer that resign based on material counting but I expect
>>>>>humans to think and resign only if they see a plan for the opponent to win and
>>>>>not only to increase the material advantage.
>>>>>
>>>>>Uri
>>>>
>>>>The only explaination which makes sense to me is that the reason for Kramnik's
>>>>resignation must be explained in terms of psychology.  He must have felt a
>>>>terrific let-down and maybe something welled up from down under and said "To
>>>>Hell with it!"  Something like that.   I utterly and emphatically reject the
>>>>notion that the game or the match are fixed. The emotional swings which surely
>>>>must have occurred in Kramnik's mind must be the root cause of Kramnik's
>>>>behavior in this case.
>>>>
>>>>Bob D.
>>>
>>>
>>>After the promotion the game looks lost, only a detailed analysis showed, that
>>>there are drawing chances. Kramnik was in time trouble and I think as he
>>>realised, that he can't stop the pawn he thought, that there is no defence and
>>>stopped calculating.
>>
>>In order to resign you need to be sure in 100% that the game is lost.
>>Being sure in 99% is not enough.
>>
>>You need to see the loss by calculation in order to resign and not the draw.
>>Seeing that you lose material is not enough unless you see a plan to win the
>>game.
>>
>>I know that other humans also did that mistake of resigning too early but it is
>>natural to expect more from kramnik.
>>
>>Uri
>
>Yes.  You do expect more from a World Champion.  MUCH more!  And Kramnik should
>have been master of his emotions.  I agree 100%.  But, for whatever reason,
>something went wrong.  He didn't come up to our expectations.  How to explain
>that?  He quit when he should have been just getting started.  Mental fatigue?
>Or, what?
 Perhaps Bob he was thrown by the fact that his sacrifice 19 Nxf7 didn't get the
result he expected. It's possible too that he thought the computer would not
make a mistake in the position where he resigned and as you said earlier he
stopped calculating.I note that Kramnik said that this was one of the most
exciting games he had ever played so it was clearly exhausting.I don't think for
one second that the games are fixed.I hope I'm not proved wrong.
 Al
>
>There have been numerous cases described in the chess literature where a sudden
>change of fortune had a big psychological impact on the unfortunate chessplayer.
> I wish I could cite some specific example, but I don't do as much reading as I
>used to.  Maybe someone else can.
>
>Lesser mortals would have been "mortified" by the turn of events that Kramnik
>experienced in the last game.  For us "ordinary" humans, the game would have
>been a frightening rollercoaster emotional ride. Maybe we should allow Kramnik
>to be a little bit human too.  Not much, but a little bit anyway.
>
>Bob D.



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