Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 17:56:57 10/16/02
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On October 16, 2002 at 19:12:37, Uri Blass wrote: >On October 16, 2002 at 18:52:08, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On October 16, 2002 at 17:57:10, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: >> >>>On October 16, 2002 at 17:53:25, Jeremiah Penery wrote: >>> >>>>On October 16, 2002 at 16:43:53, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: >>>> >>>>>I find it tasteless that Hsu claims that Deep Blue was in a 'different >>>>>class' from Fritz and that it was not match for them, when he has no >>>>>ability to back it up and the only public things we have about the two >>>>>show differently. >>>> >>>>How do they show differently? >>> >>>'very old' Fritz beat 'very old' Deep Blue >>> >>>Granted, it's not the same as 'new' Fritz and 'new' Deep Blue, >>>but considering this is the only thing they have to show, I'm >>>taking Hsu's opionion with a few beaches of salt. >>> >>>-- >>>GCP >> >> >>You are simply relying on _one_ game. What about 10 years of total domination >>in computer >>chess? > >It is not relevant >Most of the opponents >were weaker than the opponents of 1995. Your "logic" _totally_ escapes me. They dominate _everybody_ for ten years. In 1997 they come out with an even better and faster machine, that beats Kasparov. And "the opponents were weaker than the opponents of 1995?" Somehow I simply can't follow that kind of reasoning. _clearly_ what the DB guys did in 1996 and 1997 was _far_ better than their 1987 deep thought stuff... And thru 1994 deep thought wrecked every micro it ran across... If the 1995 programs made progress, so did the 1996 and 1997 editions of deep blue... > >I do not think that in 1990 there was something that >was in the same level of Fritz3(p90) or wchess(p90) and even >later there were only few opponents in similiar level. > > >People agree that Deep thought was the best in the past. >Genius was also the best commercial program in the past >but things are changed. > > >Uri
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