Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 10:09:58 10/17/02
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On October 17, 2002 at 06:46:50, Jeremiah Penery wrote: You don't put on your 20GB harddrive box that it is a 14(6) GB harddrive. Instead you sell it as 20GB. You are a complete idiot if you believe that 12(6) is 18 ply. There is so many statements now which if you litterary interpret them means that 12(6) = 12 ply. The clearest statement is the advances of artificial intelligence. It seems to me that the only person who tries to present things better than they are is Hsu. The documents which clearly state non-ambigious 12 ply are written by 3 persons and proofreaded. >On October 17, 2002 at 06:13:26, Johan Melin wrote: > >>On October 16, 2002 at 23:35:10, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On October 15, 2002 at 14:01:35, Johan Melin wrote: >>> >>>>On October 14, 2002 at 07:34:16, Bas Hamstra wrote: >>>> >>>>>Bob, did you read the Hsu transcript posted here? It is pretty clear to me that >>>>>Hsu himself says 12 ply fullwidth *total*. Case closed. Please read the complete >>>>>transcript. >>>>> >>>>>Best regards, >>>>>Bas. >>>> >>>>I agree. The transcript with Hsu is clear. But it would be out of character for >>>>CCC if everybody just agreed with each other, there still has to be a fight ... >>>>;) >>>> >>>>/Johan Melin >>> >>> >>>Here is the relevant part of the transcript: >>> >> >>There are other relevant parts? How about: >> >>---------------------------------- >>EeEk(* DM) kibitzes: kib question from ardee: Does "12(6)" mean 12 >>total ply or 12+6=18 total ply? This has the been source of huge >>arguments for years! >>CrazyBird(DM) kibitzes: 12 total in terms of brute force. 6 is just >>the max partition in hardware. >>---------------------------------- >> >>He sais 12 _total_. He also refers to 6 as "just", implying that it is less >>important than the 12. >> >>If somebody tells you that "the storage capacity of this harddrive is 20 GB, 5 >>GB is just the linux partition", then what is the storage capacity? 25 GB? > >To use your hard drive example: If 20(5) is the question, and I answer, "20GB >total in terms of Windows. 5 is just the Linux partition," what would you make >of that statement? IMO, it's possible to interpret that in more than one way. >The problem is that it's unclear what "in terms of Windows" means, just as it's >unclear what "in terms of brute force" means in Hsu's statement.
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