Author: Mark Young
Date: 15:13:19 10/17/02
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On October 17, 2002 at 05:04:25, Mig Greengard wrote: >Hello from Bahrain. I stopped by here last night after Alex Kure of the Fritz >team told me that people here were also looking at drawing lines in that final >position. I stumbled onto these lines myself yesterday while preparing light >analysis for the http://www.BrainsinBahrain.com site, which I'm running. I say >stumbled because I only wanted to make it clear to weaker players why Kramnik >resigned so they wouldn't say, "but he can take the black bishop!" > >Of course a few moves down the line it began to look very tricky and the next >few hours were spent trying to find a forced win. My main interest was to show >that *for Fritz* there is no win, regardless of what may be found some day by >profound human analysis (or in some Averbakh book..) Fritz is seduced by the >extra queen and gladly gives up the b-pawn and knight for that dead drawn queen >vs. rook fortress. I don't know who is less happy, Frans or Vlady (who doesn't >know about it yet unless his team decided to tell him). > >For that reason the rook+knight vs rook endgame with tiny winning chances is a >moot point as far as Fritz is concerned. > >From a brief glance at the threads here, it is worth pointing out how difficult >the moves leading up to these position are for a human. Of course Kramnik should >have played on, but the rook maneuver to d7 is far from easy to see, even for a >GM. There are several wandering around here and they were all stunned by these >moves, which for your computers are forced and obvious. Playing the rook back to >a2 or a1 are more natural moves. The perpetual check threat with the rook on the >d-file is very, very hard to see. > >It's possible that Kramnik did see it and saw as far as black queening in that >line. Like Fritz he assumed black would have no trouble winning with the passed >b-pawn. But it's also very possible he did not see anything better than Raa1 or >Ra2 (instead of 36.Ra7+) with a clearly lost R+K vs R position because the black >b-pawn is still on the board. He had less than 10 minutes at the time and only >four or five when he resigned. We'll find out more in the press conference today >after game 7. > >Saludos, Mig Thanks for the update Mig...I find it almost as shocking that GM Kramnik will be the last to know.
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