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Subject: Re: Where is our Mig? (Winning line for Fritz in game 6 is (NOT)

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 04:09:26 10/18/02

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Thanks, Mig, because you're the only one reporting from Bahrain. Yesterday I
read that you would do some research on game 6 with the machine, what was
confirmed by Frans Morsch. Is it still a real plan? On ChessBase Germany I read
that today some masters would play Fritz (Bahrain). Do you think that there is
enough time left for the research?

Then another point. Since I've read you for a long time, I miss the old Mig with
the continual tongue in cheek reports. I mean, if the Bahrain event can't cause
you to laugh out loud, then what must happen? Where is the sophisticated Mig?
Sorry, if I missed something, business contracts and such.

In short,I wished that you would give us reports on basic reality and not on
realities influenced by surface PR. If you agree I take your cat for a whole
week into my custody - in exchange!

Rolf Tueschen


On October 18, 2002 at 04:43:26, Mig Greengard wrote:

>I know this is the CCC and not a CC, but we already know that engines don't find
>a win or the best defense because their evaluation of several of the endgames is
>completely wrong. In what you post white has many chances to simply capture on
>b5, giving up a rook for the black knight and b-pawn for a dead drawn rook vs
>queen fortress position. The engines will never do this because they think the
>queen vs rook position is wonderful for black, with evals of +4 or higher. But
>this is the simplest draw of the many possible.
>
>The only variations of interest are those than can refute these defensive
>concepts:
>
>1. Giving up a rook for knight and pawn for a fortress.
>2. Giving up both rooks for queen and pawn for a drawn f+g pawns vs N+h-pawn
>endgame.
>3. Giving up a rook for both b-pawns for a drawn R vs R+N endgame.
>
>Number three is the only one that seems to offer any chances for a black win
>right now. But several GMs have looked at that ending in detail and have had no
>success in winning it. According to Keene, he played an almost identical ending
>with Mednis over three days (adjournments) and never won it.
>
>There may exist some fantastical lines with an attack on the white king using
>the b-pawn as bait, or other possibilities with the queen still on the board,
>but this seems unlikely at this point.
>
>Saludos, Mig



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