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Subject: Re: Kramnik's move #20. Rxe8? Very inaccurate! Why Fritz team accepts draw?

Author: Terry Ripple

Date: 12:06:55 10/19/02

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On October 19, 2002 at 14:36:08, martin fierz wrote:

>On October 19, 2002 at 14:08:59, Terry Ripple wrote:
>
>>On October 19, 2002 at 13:46:30, martin fierz wrote:
>>
>>>On October 19, 2002 at 10:02:00, Terry Ripple wrote:
>>>
>>>>Why on earth would a World Champion make this move Rxe8? which is somewhat an
>>>>inaccuracybecause of his isolated pawn?
>>>>
>>>>Plus why would Fritz accept this draw offer?? Interesting!!
>>>>
>>>>Terry
>>>
>>>terry, just take a moment to think about it. kramnik played Rxe8. you think it's
>>>a mistake. what does that tell you? that it's in fact really a mistake or that
>>>you don't understand the position?
>>>
>>>aloha
>>>  martin
>>----------------
>>I'am a certainly strong enough player to understand this position
>and comments i
>>heard from other strong International Masters made the same comment!
>>
>>Of course it's not a mistake if that's truely what Kramnik wanted to play! But
>>it's truely an incorrect move in most cases according to certain basic rules of
>>chess that states that you don't trade down your pieces to bring the game closer
>>to an endgame when you have a weak vulnerable isolated pawn which comes closer
>>to being captured in an endgame position with less pieces on the board!
>
>that is just not true. there are many instances of IQP endgames which are
>perfectly ok for the IQP side. the trick is to know which endgames you are
>allowed to play, and which not...
>
>
>>This then benifits Deep fritz in most scenerios so then why would the Fritz team
>>not allow it to atleast try to play on a little further unless you know already
>>that Deep Fritz doesn't have the understanding to make progress and then turn it
>>into a win!
>>
>>Or, was the Fritz team basically giving the world champion "respect"?
>
>i read somewhere that fritz was evaluating it's position as -0.34 in the final
>position. so fritz didnt like it's position and was happy with the draw. and
>perhaps the DF team, as you say, had the feeling that DF didnt have the type of
>endgame knowledge to win such an endgame, even if it were good (which it isn't
>in the final position).
>
>personally, i'm not too disappointed with the final outcome: 4-4 - that nearly
>gives us a guarantee for a rematch :-)
>
>aloha
>  martin
>---------------------------

Yes, the final outcome is great and i want to personally congratulate everyone
involved on the Deep Fritz team and thank them for this wonderful event!

>>Regards,
>>      Terry



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