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Subject: Re: A question about quiescence search

Author: Antonio Dieguez

Date: 11:41:53 10/20/02

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On October 20, 2002 at 13:50:17, Alessandro Damiani wrote:

>>As one can see if there is a queen attacked the score will be ~9 pawns below
>>eval if for example there are no captures, unless one add the excuse of
>>"tactical moves" and say saving the queen is a tactical move then or a barbarie
>>like that.
>>If you are referencing it then you are supporting it somehow? is it correctly
>>written here? let state clear that as presented here is very imprecise, or very
>>wrong. In any case replace a good qsearch with this obviusly won't do an engine
>>any stronger, so may be it has only a didactic meaning.
>>
>
>By tactical moves defencive ones are also ment. So, saving the queen is a
>tactical move.

I see.
You can't negate it looks vague.

So I think it is imprecise, or imprecisely formulated.

(Taking into account only what you wrote here, I have to see that paper. I will
be very apreciated if you tell me where do I find it.)

>I don't use Beal's method. As we know, in computer chess there is no "that's the
>only right way to do it". Ed Schröder said here in the CCC that he uses a more
>complex qsearch than the simplistic one. Vincent also uses a more complex
>qsearch.
>
>One can resolve quiescence issues either by a more complex qsearch or by a
>smarter inner search. What one does is up to the programmer, as usual in
>computer chess.
>
>What do you mean by "is it correctly written here? let state clear that as
>presented here is very imprecise, or very wrong."? Are you talking about the
>algorithm I cited?
>
>If yes, then I can tell you that I cited the algorithm correctly. Please, if Don
>Beal's work is the subject, then read his paper. This way we both save time.
>
>The following statement you made - "In any case replace a good qsearch with this
>obviusly won't do an engine any stronger, so may be it has only a didactic
>meaning." - is typical for an unexperienced chess programmer. BTW, "a good
>qsearch" is maybe based on Beal's algorithm. ;)
>
>Why did I cite Beal's algorithm? To explain Tomar what a pessimistic view in
>qsearch is. By evaluating the null-move and using this score as a starting point
>one states "I look at my hung pieces as if they are lost". This is the
>pessimistic view.
>
>Alessandro



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