Author: Bob Durrett
Date: 16:12:39 10/20/02
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On October 20, 2002 at 18:33:25, José Carlos wrote:
>On October 20, 2002 at 18:16:38, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On October 20, 2002 at 17:55:55, Bob Durrett wrote:
>>
>>>Why Fritz and Junior not among Top computers at ICC?
>>>
>>>I just looked at "best computers" at the Internet Chess Club [ICC] and noted
>>>that the top blitz programs are NOT Fritz and Junior.
>>>
>>>{{Note: at ICC, "best" is a command.}}
>>>
>>>
>>>Why is that? Maybe Kramnik was playing against the wrong engine?
>>>
>>>Bob D.
>>
>>ICC rating is a joke.
>>
>>People can maximize their rating by having a list of
>>players that they do not to play.
>>
>>I think that it is better to ignore that rating because
>>it has no meaning.
>>
>>Rating should be based on tournament when players have
>>no right not to play against special opponents.
>>
>>Players who choose not to play against special
>>opponents should get no rating.
>>
>>Another point is that the time control for blitz is not
>>constant time control and it can be 3 0 or 12 2.
>>
>>I think that all games should be played at
>>the same time control to have rating with meaning.
>
> ICC rating is not totally meaningless. It depends on what you want to know. I
>mean, if I usually play the same time controls and a variety of opponents, I can
>test my program with two different books and see which one works better. In that
>case, ICC rating is useful _to me_.
> But I agree is doesn't always show which player is stronger because of the
>reasons you mentioned.
>
> José C.
OK, so some manipulation is possible. People who used Fritz or Junior could do
the same thing!
What strikes me is that Fritz and Junior seem to be missing entirely!
Do you suppose somebody has talked the ICC management into boycotting Fritz and
Junior?
Joke or not, I think it's very strange that Fritz and Junior cannot compete in
that arena. They could play by the same rules as the others, too!
Bob D.
>
>
>
>>It is better if you look at the ssdf rating list.
I doubt that the SSDF ratings have anything at all to do with the rating of the
computers against humans. But the ICC computers ARE playing against humans.
>>
>>Uri
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