Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 18:05:15 10/20/02
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On October 20, 2002 at 19:40:28, Bob Durrett wrote: >On October 20, 2002 at 19:23:32, Rolf Tueschen wrote: > >>On October 20, 2002 at 16:06:33, Otello Gnaramori wrote: >> >>>On October 20, 2002 at 15:43:36, Otello Gnaramori wrote: >>> >>>>http://www.dailystarnews.com/200210/19/n2101904.htm#BODY12 >>>> >>>>In the above link I've found the following declaration: >>>>"A member of the Kramnik team said Thursday, "After studying the computer's game >>>>for over a year, it is almost as if we are being brainwashed by this programme." >>>> >>>>w.b.r. >>>>Otello >>>> >>>> >>>>p.s. >>>>There is also "Even if I am playing for free, it is the same, I want to win. I >>>>want to play good games. Winning is the most important thing to me," said >>>>Kramnik. >>> >>>http://www.sundayherald.com/28623 >>> >>>After the finale, Kramnik said he had found Fritz 'much stronger' than programs >>>he had played a year ago. 'It is not just strong in terms of calculations, which >>>is to be expected, but in terms of positional moves. It plays like a very strong >>>human. These are 'human moves'.' >> >>Excuse me if I add 3 points. >> >>1) The statement of Kramnik is simply absolutely wrong! Let me explain. Kramnik >>is strong enough being capable of letting Fritz look good or bad. That is he lie >>(yes, I will stay to that term) in his statement. The first 4 games have proved >>that Kramnik could simply kill Fritz. The second half Kramnik played completely >>different chess and Fritz looked "good". So simple as that. >> >>2) Why Kramnik played like he played and why did he talk like he talked? Look, >>if you got 1 million or 800000 dollars for such 8 little exhibition games you >>were simply incapable of being nasty to those who have made it possible that >>you've won in the lottery. So you play your chess but then you realise that it >>went too cruel, so you get it a bit slower. That is not cheating. That is >>unconsciously what you would do yourself too if you were Kramnik. It's a certain >>compassion for those chess amateurs from ChessBase. And all those average GM >>around. Kramnik is a nice guy, he already said that he doesn't want to kill the >>ego of the opponent. So what he did was simply being nice. And folks when did >>you get 800 000 dollars for 8 chess games? That is so unreal and that was it >>what Kramnik meant with the accurate site in Bahrain. It's like day-dreaming on >>a sunny day in summer. >> >>3) That having said, let me point out what is ugly in such nonsense. It's the >>depressing effect of such bought exhibitions on your art. Sometimes you could >>see the genius play chess. But then to get it back to normal Kramnik played such >>a nonsense that we began to shout "cheat" and "intentional blundering". But >>Kramnik might have thought that people couldn't estimate his art anyway. >>He might ask himself if that was justified to spend all these years away from >>tournament chess and just in exhibitions. I think that that is the bad side of >>the whole hype. In a way he sold his art to the devil to get the money. Honestly >>I fear that Kramnik doesn't have the character to withstand the moneything. When >>he was 17 he was drunken in Berlin where life is so different to his own >>country. Now he has smelled the sweets of the money and it could well be that he >>will never be the same he was before. He's neither Fischer nor Kasparov. And if >>I had the choice I would prefer Fischer because he gave always full power and >>his genius, while Kasparov is too much occupied with his own higher meaning in >>the world. Kramnik will endlike Spassky. That is what I fear. >> >>But give me 1 million dollars and I say the opposite for a couple of days. :) >> >>Rolf Tueschen > >Thanks, Rolf, for the plain English. I understand you perfectly this time. > >But what is still unclear is how you could get all that from eight little games! > >Bob D. I was after the money thing! Rolf Tueschen
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