Author: Bob Durrett
Date: 18:27:17 10/20/02
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On October 20, 2002 at 21:05:15, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >On October 20, 2002 at 19:40:28, Bob Durrett wrote: > >>On October 20, 2002 at 19:23:32, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >> >>>On October 20, 2002 at 16:06:33, Otello Gnaramori wrote: >>> >>>>On October 20, 2002 at 15:43:36, Otello Gnaramori wrote: >>>> >>>>>http://www.dailystarnews.com/200210/19/n2101904.htm#BODY12 >>>>> >>>>>In the above link I've found the following declaration: >>>>>"A member of the Kramnik team said Thursday, "After studying the computer's game >>>>>for over a year, it is almost as if we are being brainwashed by this programme." >>>>> >>>>>w.b.r. >>>>>Otello >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>p.s. >>>>>There is also "Even if I am playing for free, it is the same, I want to win. I >>>>>want to play good games. Winning is the most important thing to me," said >>>>>Kramnik. >>>> >>>>http://www.sundayherald.com/28623 >>>> >>>>After the finale, Kramnik said he had found Fritz 'much stronger' than programs >>>>he had played a year ago. 'It is not just strong in terms of calculations, which >>>>is to be expected, but in terms of positional moves. It plays like a very strong >>>>human. These are 'human moves'.' >>> >>>Excuse me if I add 3 points. >>> >>>1) The statement of Kramnik is simply absolutely wrong! Let me explain. Kramnik >>>is strong enough being capable of letting Fritz look good or bad. That is he lie >>>(yes, I will stay to that term) in his statement. The first 4 games have proved >>>that Kramnik could simply kill Fritz. The second half Kramnik played completely >>>different chess and Fritz looked "good". So simple as that. >>> >>>2) Why Kramnik played like he played and why did he talk like he talked? Look, >>>if you got 1 million or 800000 dollars for such 8 little exhibition games you >>>were simply incapable of being nasty to those who have made it possible that >>>you've won in the lottery. So you play your chess but then you realise that it >>>went too cruel, so you get it a bit slower. That is not cheating. That is >>>unconsciously what you would do yourself too if you were Kramnik. It's a certain >>>compassion for those chess amateurs from ChessBase. And all those average GM >>>around. Kramnik is a nice guy, he already said that he doesn't want to kill the >>>ego of the opponent. So what he did was simply being nice. And folks when did >>>you get 800 000 dollars for 8 chess games? That is so unreal and that was it >>>what Kramnik meant with the accurate site in Bahrain. It's like day-dreaming on >>>a sunny day in summer. >>> >>>3) That having said, let me point out what is ugly in such nonsense. It's the >>>depressing effect of such bought exhibitions on your art. Sometimes you could >>>see the genius play chess. But then to get it back to normal Kramnik played such >>>a nonsense that we began to shout "cheat" and "intentional blundering". But >>>Kramnik might have thought that people couldn't estimate his art anyway. >>>He might ask himself if that was justified to spend all these years away from >>>tournament chess and just in exhibitions. I think that that is the bad side of >>>the whole hype. In a way he sold his art to the devil to get the money. Honestly >>>I fear that Kramnik doesn't have the character to withstand the moneything. When >>>he was 17 he was drunken in Berlin where life is so different to his own >>>country. Now he has smelled the sweets of the money and it could well be that he >>>will never be the same he was before. He's neither Fischer nor Kasparov. And if >>>I had the choice I would prefer Fischer because he gave always full power and >>>his genius, while Kasparov is too much occupied with his own higher meaning in >>>the world. Kramnik will endlike Spassky. That is what I fear. >>> >>>But give me 1 million dollars and I say the opposite for a couple of days. :) >>> >>>Rolf Tueschen >> >>Thanks, Rolf, for the plain English. I understand you perfectly this time. >> >>But what is still unclear is how you could get all that from eight little games! >> >>Bob D. > >I was after the money thing! > >Rolf Tueschen Aha! I get it. "The root of all evil." Yes, even I [Saint for sure], can be swayed by money. Kramnik, obviously not a Saint, probably fell into that trap without a struggle. Come to think of it, those last two games did seem to end without a fight. Makes one think, doesn't it! Then there is that knight sacrifice on f7. Could it be that Kramnik was "giving Fritz a chance"? The blunder of a piece on the earlier game, though, would have been too blatant to be a deliberate gift. Wouldn't it??? I'm jealous too! Why couldn't I get part of that money? Bob D. Bob D. Bob D.
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