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Subject: Re: Fritz7 beats DeepFritz7 at 5/12 5.0-3.0 with 192 Hash vs 32 MB Hash ??

Author: Brian Katz

Date: 04:28:07 10/21/02

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On October 21, 2002 at 05:49:32, Uri Blass wrote:

>On October 21, 2002 at 05:36:23, Brian Katz wrote:
>
>>  Here is an interesting experiment involving Hash Table settings.
>>This was run on a single processor 350MHz Pent II 384 SDRAM with Nalimov 4 disc
>>Endgame Turbo plus additional downloaded 5 piece endgames and Permanent Brain
>>turned off.
>>
>>  For my computer's speed the proper HASH TABLE settings for game 5/12 should be
>>16 MB. I have found that 32MB has always worked well, however.
>>As an experiment, since I believe Fritz 7 performs better than Deep-Fritz 7 when
>>using a single processor (even though Chessbase boasts otherwise, stating that
>>DF7 is stronger even when usning a single processor).
>>  I raised the Hash Table settings for Fritz 7 to 192 MB as opposed to
>>Deep-Fritz 7 set at 32 MB Hash.
>>  Surely, 192 should be much too high for such a time control with my processor
>>speed. Well, Fritz 7 still beat out Deep-Fritz 7 by 5.0-3.0
>
>5-3 is not a significant result and I also think that the effect of hash is
>very small here and I doubt if 32 is better than 128 for Fritz.
>
>Another point:
>I think that it may be interesting to compare nodes per second of Fritz7 and
>Deep Fritz7 on your processor and on the ssdf processors that are faster.
>
>It is possible that when chessbase said that Deep Fritz7 is better on single
>processor they thought only about the fast processors and it is possible that
>Deep Fritz7 was simply not oprimized for the slow processors.
>
>Uri

Hi Uri
I had raised this question in a recent post. It is possible that DF7 cannot
realize it's full benefit as opposed to Fritz 7 on a slow processor.
The other question does concern me, however. And that is the tablebase question.

I have already found on many many occasions that Fritz 7 comes out ahead on my
processor, but shouldn't such HIGH HashTable settings for such a short time
control hindered Fritz 7's result? That I find puzzling!
 Thank you for your insightful words acknowledging the fact that I may have had
similar previous results.
Just like in experiments, one shouldn't jump to conclusions too fast.
I am just raising questions. I think that after a few hundred games there may be
something to what I have found. Unfortunately the previous poster has jumped to
conclusions.
Thanks again
Brian



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