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Subject: Re: 2 Testpositions from Leiden

Author: John Merlino

Date: 13:16:11 10/21/02

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On October 21, 2002 at 14:08:51, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:

>[D]3r2k1/r1p1bp2/bnn1pp1p/3qP3/2pP3Q/1P2BN2/4BPPP/R1R3K1 w - - 0 24
>
>Mate in 13
>
>(the move is obvious, finding the mate is not)

Interestingly enough, the default Chessmaster personality, on my P4-2.66, does
NOT find this mate (at least, not in a reasonable amount of time). This leads me
to believe that Johan, once again, is using "experimental" settings of some
kind.

Did Johan actually announce Mate in the tournament? 24...Bf8 leads to an easy
mate to find, but it seems that other moves (that also lose, such as 24...Qe4)
might not....

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/3	0.89	4588		24.Bxh6 Bf8 25.Bxf8 Rxf8 26.exf6
0:00	1/4	0.89	11883		24.Bxh6 Bf8 25.Bxf8 Rxf8 26.exf6
0:00	1/5	0.88	25419		24.Bxh6 Bf8 25.Bxf8 Rxf8 26.exf6
					Raa8
0:00	1/6	1.62	89013		24.Bxh6 Bf8 25.Qg3+ Kh7 26.Bxf8
					Rxf8 27.exf6 Rg8 28.Qh4+ Kg6
0:00	1/7	1.57	174966		24.Bxh6 Bf8 25.Qg3+ Kh7 26.Bxf8
					Rxf8 27.exf6 Rg8 28.Qh4+ Kg6 29.bxc4
					Bxc4 30.Rxa7 Nxa7
0:02	1/8	1.62	434200		24.Bxh6 Bf8 25.Qg3+ Kh7 26.Bxf8
					Rxf8 27.exf6 Rg8 28.Qh4+ Kg6 29.bxc4
					Bxc4 30.Ne5+ Kf5
0:09	1/9	3.34	2047046		24.Bxh6 Bf8 25.Qg4+ Kh7 26.Bxf8
					Rxf8 27.Rxa6 Rxa6 28.bxc4 Nxc4
					29.Bxc4 Qa5 30.Bxa6 Qxa6 31.exf6
0:22	1/10	4.10	5244974		24.Bxh6 Bf8 25.Qg4+ Kh7 26.Bxf8
					Rxf8 27.Qh4+ Kg7 28.exf6+ Kg6 29.bxc4
					Bxc4 30.Rxa7 Bxe2 31.Qg4+ Kxf6
					32.Rxc6 Bxf3 33.Qxf3+ Qxf3 34.gxf3
1:36	2/11	7.08	21918181	24.Bxh6 Bf8 25.Qg4+ Kh7 26.Bxf8
					Rxf8 27.Ng5+ fxg5 28.Qh5+ Kg8 29.Qxg5+
					Kh8 30.Rc3 Qe4 31.Rh3+ Qh7 32.Qf6+
					Kg8 33.Rg3+ Qg6 34.Rxg6+ fxg6 35.Qxg6+
					Kh8 36.Qh6+ Kg8 37.Qxe6+ Rf7 38.Qxc6
3:43	3/12	13.08	57968425	24.Bxh6 Qe4 25.Qxe4 f5 26.Qxc6
					Rda8 27.bxc4 Kh7 28.Bd2 Bb7 29.Qxc7
					Rxa1 30.Qxe7
5:59	4/13	13.03	98221498	24.Bxh6 Qe4 25.Qxe4 f5 26.Qxc6
					Rda8 27.bxc4 Kh7 28.Be3 Bb7 29.Qxc7
					Rxa1 30.Qxe7
23:45	5/14	13.23	423586860	24.Bxh6 Qe4 25.Qxe4 f5 26.Qxc6
					Rda8 27.bxc4 Kh7 28.Be3 Bb7 29.Qxc7
					Rxa1 30.Qxe7 Rxc1+ 31.Bxc1

>I'm a bad loser, but it was nice to see The King unleashed
>and I didn't mind being on the receiving end that much.
>
>[D]rn3rk1/2p2pp1/bn2p2p/3qP1B1/1bpPN3/5N2/1PQ1BPPP/R4RK1 w - - 0 15
>
>Bxh6 wins instantly, Rxa6 also, but with a move more. Most
>engines find it quickly, then lose it, but finally find it
>again.

Well, I can truthfully say that CM9000 also does this same thing. It finds Bxh6
AND loses it in less than one second, and doesn't find it again until 9:16! Up
until then, the difference in eval between that move and Be3 is about 0.3....

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/3	0.26	2473		15.Bxh6 f5 16.Nf6+ Rxf6 17.exf6
					gxh6
0:00	1/3	0.86	2892		15.Be3 Bb7 16.Nc3
0:00	1/4	0.98	5634		15.Be3 Bb7 16.Nc3 Qd7 17.Rxa8 Bxa8
0:00	1/5	0.68	20957		15.Be3 Nc6 16.h3 Bb7 17.Nc3 Qd7
0:00	1/6	0.81	81526		15.Be3 Nc6 16.Rfd1 Bb7 17.Nc3 Qd7
0:01	1/7	0.75	226706		15.Be3 Nc6 16.Rfd1 Bb7 17.Nc3 Qd7
					18.Rxa8 Rxa8
0:04	1/8	0.87	827083		15.Be3 N8d7 16.Bd2 Bxd2 17.Nexd2
					Bb5 18.Rfe1 f5 19.Rec1
0:12	1/9	0.77	2527262		15.Be3 Nc6 16.Bxh6 f5 17.exf6ep
					gxh6 18.Nc5 Rxf6 19.Rxa6 Rxa6 20.Nxa6
					Bd6 21.Rd1
0:27	1/10	0.71	5713708		15.Be3 Nc6 16.Bxh6 f5 17.exf6ep
					gxh6 18.Nc5 Rxf6 19.Rxa6 Rxa6 20.Nxa6
					Bd6 21.Rd1 Qb5
1:31	2/11	0.76	19344474	15.Be3 Nc6 16.Bxh6 f5 17.exf6ep
					gxh6 18.Nc5 Rxf6 19.Rxa6 Rxa6 20.Nxa6
					Bd6 21.Rd1 Qf5 22.Qxf5 Rxf5
4:40	3/12	0.76	60033108	15.Be3 Nc6 16.Bxh6 f5 17.exf6ep
					gxh6 18.Nc5 Rxf6 19.Rxa6 Rxa6 20.Nxa6
					Bd6 21.Rd1 Qf5 22.Qxf5 Rxf5
9:16	3/12	3.04	118863870	15.Bxh6 f5 16.exf6ep gxh6 17.Ne5
					Bb7 18.Bf3 Rxa1 19.Ng5 Rxf6 20.Qh7+
					Kf8 21.Rxa1 Rxf3 22.Qxh6+ Ke8 23.Qg6+
					Kd8 24.Ngxf3

jm



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