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Subject: Re: 2 Testpositions from Leiden

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 11:44:47 10/22/02

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On October 22, 2002 at 14:21:06, Johan Hutting wrote:

>On October 22, 2002 at 10:25:09, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On October 22, 2002 at 10:20:30, Johan Hutting wrote:
>>
>
>>>Tony's explanation is what happened, I was standing next to the author of Shark
>>>when he offered it (twice!). This may have to do with Shark winning on time
>>>saturday while Celes had a mate in 5 in the final position. I wouldn't be happy
>>>with 2 wins on time in lost positions. Perhaps if I was commercial and going for
>>>the top spots, but still...
>>>>
>>>>It seems that Djenghis has no repetition detection(otherwise I cannot understand
>>>>the move Ke4)
>>
>>The final position in the pgn that I downloaded was a draw position.
>
>Maybe it 'was', but it _is_ not.
>I don't see a threefold repetition after 34.g5, I only see a _possible_
>repetition after those moves.

The game that I have does not finish with 34.g5

The game that I have has the move 34...Ra3+ 35.Ke4 Nc5+

Here is the final position that I have in the pgn that I downloaded.
[D]4k3/4bp1p/6p1/2nQ2P1/2PNKB2/r7/7P/8 w - - 0 36
>
>Read the part that you conveniently snipped out:
>"AFAIK, Djenghis doesn't have the repcheck, however Shark does, but it attempts
>to _avoid_ it. The author had already mentioned this during the game."
>
>Note the part that says _avoid_.

I read that part.
It is not relevant for the claim that the final position in the pgn that I
downloaded was a draw position.

>
>>If what you say is correct then it means that the pgn is wrong.
>
>No, it just means you are.

So you say that the pgn that I downloaded is not wrong?

Here is the game that I downloaded copied from Junior7 to this board:

Djenghis - Shark
Open Dutch CC 2002 Leiden NED (5), 20.10.2002

1.d4 d5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.e4 Nxe4 4.Bb5+ Bd7 5.Bxd7+ Qxd7 6.Nxe4 dxe4 7.f3 exf3 8.Nxf3
Qe6+ 9.Kf2 Qb6 10.Rf1 g6 11.Kg1 c5 12.Be3 Bg7 13.dxc5 Qxb2 14.Rb1 Qxa2 15.Rxb7
Qa5 16.Rxe7+ Kxe7 17.Qd6+ Ke8 18.Bd2 Qa1 19.Qd5 Qxf1+ 20.Kxf1 Ke7 21.Qxa8 Nd7
22.Qxa7 Rc8 23.c4 Bf6 24.Bf4 Rxc5 25.Qa4 Rc8 26.Qb5 Ra8 27.Qd5 Ra1+ 28.Ke2 Ra2+
29.Kf1 Ke8 30.g4 Ra6 31.Nd4 Ra1+ 32.Ke2 Ra2+ 33.Ke3 Be7 34.g5 Ra3+ 35.Ke4 Nc5+
½-½

Uri



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