Author: Sune Fischer
Date: 14:02:51 10/23/02
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On October 23, 2002 at 14:54:09, martin fierz wrote:
>On October 23, 2002 at 11:26:38, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On October 23, 2002 at 05:08:11, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On October 22, 2002 at 17:29:53, martin fierz wrote:
>>>
>>>let's be clear. the kramnik guy was happy to receive
>>>a million dollar in advance. Without much effort he played
>>>a few moves and it was 3-1. Then everyone started complaining
>>>that the match got no publicity and got no excitement.
>>>
>>>He then gives away a piece in a clear drawn position with
>>>a 1b trick (1 check in between). That's bullet blunder level.
>>>
>>>In fact i don't make such mistakes that much at bullet and
>>>last time i made such a mistake at slow level was a year or
>>>10 ago. Kramnik had plenty of time.
>>>
>>>0% chance he didn't deliberately blunder there.
>>
>>I think that is a totally stupid statement to make. I can point out GM blunders
>>in _every_ tournament I have watched online. I have seen them overlook a mate
>>in 2. A hanging queen. You-name-it. Human GMs _do_ make mistakes. Not as
>>often as non-GM players, but also far more often than "never".
>
>bob, of course human players make mistakes. but GM != GM. kramnik is way beyond
>your average GM. i challenge you to find a tournament game ("normal" time
>control, not rapid chess) by kramnik in the last 5 years where he made such a
>blunder without time trouble. i'd be surprised if you found one :-)
>(but i'd really like to know the answer to that one!)
>
>i'm not going to say he threw the game. but i am going to say that the DF team
>was *extremely* lucky to get this kind of present by kramnik - i'd say this kind
>of mistake happens to him once in 800 games rather than once in 8 on average...
>
>aloha
> martin
I remember seeing Anand miss a simple move that would have drawn a game
instantly instead of losing it, and I also remember a game with two top players,
IIRC one of them was Shirov, where in a KQ-KR ending the rook could have been
grapped by a simple forking check.
BTW, the game drew because the KQ-player didn't know the technique.
Maybe they didn't exactly have a lot of time left, but they weren't down to
bullet speeds AFAIR.
I am sure there are a other examples, and they probably do have nightmares about
these blunders! :)
-S.
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