Author: Tony Werten
Date: 06:04:17 10/24/02
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On October 24, 2002 at 03:21:41, Aloisio Ponti Lopes wrote:
>On October 24, 2002 at 01:37:04, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>1)I do not agree that elostat is more accurate than chessbase rating.
>>
>>I see that Genius is almost last place by elostat.
>>Genius has 0%.
>>
>>My question is how can a program with 0% get a rating?
>>
>>Chessbase is smarter than elostat and at least does not give rating for programs
>>with 0%.
>
>Maybe a good question to the author of ELOSTAT ?
>
>>2)I think that something is wrong in the list because genius is known to be
>>strong at fast time control and I believe that the probability for it to get 0%
>>in more than 10 games is very small even if it plays against the top programs.
>>
>>Uri
>
>I agree with you. Further Genius 6,5 testing is needed; I must say that
>Millenium's Chess System isn't that much "user friendly" when it stands to add
>other engines to test against Genius.
>Maybe I'll try some AUTO232 matchs with Blitz time controls with increment (1 or
>2 seconds).
>
>I've already tried to match Genius against the new Crafty 19, Genius got totally
>overplayed by Crafty (1 min. bullet - KO match), but in 2 games Genius won BY
>TIME, I don't know if this was a GUI issue as the final position of both games
>are a clear win for Crafty (and I don't think Crafty is slower than Genius and
>could loose by forfeiting on time):
>
Actually that's Bob's main reason for saying you should keep pondering on:
Crafty's timemanagement get screwed with ponder off. Well, he seems to be right.
Tony
>[Event "Genius test"]
>[Site "Ponti Chess Club"]
>[Date "2002.10.24"]
>[Round "1"]
>[White "Genius"]
>[Black "Crafty"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "C00"]
>[PlyCount "118"]
>[EventDate "2002.??.??"]
>[TimeControl "60"]
>
>1. e4 e6 2. d3 d5 3. Nd2 Nf6 4. Ngf3 b6 5. c3 Bb7 6. Qa4+ Nfd7 7. exd5 exd5 8.
>Be2 Bd6 9. O-O O-O 10. Re1 Nc5 11. Qc2 Nbd7 12. Nd4 Re8 13. N2f3 Ne5 14. Be3
>Ne6 15. Nf5 Nxf3+ 16. Bxf3 Bf8 17. Bd2 c6 18. Re5 Nc7 19. d4 Rxe5 20. dxe5 Ne6
>21. Re1 c5 22. Qa4 Qc7 23. c4 dxc4 24. Bxb7 Qxb7 25. Qxc4 Rd8 26. Bc3 b5 27.
>Qe4 Qxe4 28. Rxe4 g6 29. Ne3 b4 30. Be1 Be7 31. Rc4 Bg5 32. Kf1 Bxe3 33. fxe3
>Rd5 34. e4 Rxe5 35. Bg3 Rg5 36. Kf2 f5 37. e5 f4 38. Bxf4 Nxf4 39. Rxf4 Rxe5
>40. Rc4 Kf7 41. Kf3 Ke6 42. g4 h5 43. h4 Kd5 44. Rc2 c4 45. Rd2+ Kc5 46. Rc2
>hxg4+ 47. Kxg4 a5 48. Kf3 Rh5 49. Kg3 g5 50. hxg5 Rxg5+ 51. Kf4 Rd5 52. Ke4 a4
>53. Rf2 c3 54. Ke3 a3 55. bxc3 bxc3 56. Rg2 Kb4 57. Rc2 Kc4 58. Ke2 Rb5 59. Kd1
>Rb2 {Crafty forfeits on time} 1-0
>
>[Event "Genius test"]
>[Site "Ponti Chess Club"]
>[Date "2002.10.24"]
>[Round "5"]
>[White "Genius"]
>[Black "Crafty"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "B63"]
>[PlyCount "96"]
>[EventDate "2002.??.??"]
>[TimeControl "60"]
>
>1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 d6 6. Bg5 e6 7. Qd2 Be7 8.
>O-O-O O-O 9. Nb3 a6 10. Bxf6 gxf6 11. f4 b5 12. f5 Kh8 13. Ne2 Re8 14. g4 Qc7
>15. Nc3 Bb7 16. fxe6 fxe6 17. Bg2 Rac8 18. Rhf1 Rg8 19. h3 Ne5 20. a3 Nc4 21.
>Qd3 Rg5 22. Nd4 Re5 23. h4 Nxa3 24. Rf2 Qc4 25. Nce2 Qxd3 26. Rxd3 Nc4 27. Nf4
>Bxe4 28. Bxe4 Rxe4 29. Nfxe6 Re1+ 30. Rd1 Rxd1+ 31. Kxd1 Nxb2+ 32. Ke1 d5 33.
>Rf5 Nc4 34. Ke2 Nb6 35. Kd3 b4 36. Ne2 Nc4 37. Rf4 Ne5+ 38. Kd2 Rg8 39. Ke3 Bd6
>40. Rd4 Re8 41. N2f4 Nc6 42. Rxd5 Bxf4+ 43. Kxf4 Rxe6 44. Rd2 Kg8 45. Kf5 Kf7
>46. Kf4 Ne5 47. Kf5 Ng6 48. Rd7+ Re7 {Crafty forfeits on time} 1-0
>
>A. Ponti
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