Author: Joachim Rang
Date: 09:18:49 10/24/02
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On October 24, 2002 at 09:08:24, Russell Reagan wrote: >On October 24, 2002 at 05:11:19, Jorge Pichard wrote: > >>If you compare the architecture advantages of a Dual AMD MP such as: The >>operation per clock cycle, the floating point pipelines and the L1 Cache size >>you can immediately see why AMD is the King. >> >>http://www.amd.com/gb-uk/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_865_4362,00.html > >Of course AMD says their stuff is faster. Intel says theirs is. Apple says the >G4 is faster, and on, and on, and on... > >AMD is faster at one thing, Intel at another, and the G4 is blazing with Adobe >Photoshop (no doubt because it was written for the Mac). > >I recall recently putting dual Athlons against dual Intel products here at CCC, >and dual AMD machines weren't even close to the dual Intel machines. Intel was >around 1.9x faster on a dual for Crafty, and AMD only around 1.6x. > >It all depends on what you're doing and how a program takes advantage of the >hardware. Ex. Macs are usually slower at running just about everything, except >Photoshop and maybe a few others. It's no coincidence that on Apple's website >all they talk about is how Photoshop runs 90% faster on a Mac than a P4 2.5GHz >machine. It's also no coincidence that what you read about AMD being faster >comes from the AMD site. They certainly aren't going to tell you about the tests >anyone ran that showed the Athlon to be slower now are they? > >I could play 1,000 games against Fritz and come up with 8 draws somewhere along >the way and then I could post my 8 draws and say that I'm as good as Kramnik. >Statistics can always be manipulated. > >Look at all of those magical games of Eduard Nemeth that you see him post here. >He doesn't bother to post the 20 games he lost horribly for each incredible win >he scores. > >Levels of truth... > >4. (lowest level) What someone else tells you >3. What you read in a book (or magazine, or website in this case) >2. What you read in the product's documentation >1. (highest level) What it does when you run it. > >So this website is on level 3, what Vincent tells you about what he reads in the >Intel and AMD manuals is level 2, and what Robert Hyatt does when he compares >WHAT THEY DO is level 1 truth. In level 1 truth tests, Intel has won by a >non-trivial margin. At least that has been my experience. > what Bob tells me is Level 4 (what someone else tells you), so sorry lowest level... ;-) Which results one gets with crafty, does not necessarily means, that you with Fritz or Shredder get other results... But sory, just speculating... >YMMV... > >Russell
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