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Subject: most people really don't understand this stuff . . . .

Author: Anthony Cozzie

Date: 11:01:52 10/24/02

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On October 24, 2002 at 05:11:19, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>If you compare the architecture advantages of a Dual AMD MP such as: The
>operation per clock cycle, the floating point pipelines and the L1 Cache size
>you can immediately see why AMD is the King.
>
>http://www.amd.com/gb-uk/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_865_4362,00.html

1. Intel's x87 FPU is (shudder) stack based.  Go look at spec fp 2k scores and
watch a 1GHZ sun blow away a 3GHz PIV.  Intel made a deliberate decision to
optimize for multimedia (read: DSP) for the PIV; the PIV emphasizes SSE as a way
around the asinine stack based floating point unit.

2. PIV has a LARGER L1 Icache than athlon.  What idiot tacked an 8K DIRECT
MAPPED L1 Dcache on it I have no idea.

3. Don't make decisions based on the number of functional units.  In reality,
those are never full - they are limited by various dependencies in the code.
*ALPHA 21264* with a real ISA and a very aggressive ISA doesn't even hit 2 IPC
when run on Spec Int 2k.  Hammer has the same number of FUs as the Athlon.
Increasing the number of FUs does not give you infinite performance increases.

anthony



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