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Subject: Re: Panic Mode

Author: Omid David

Date: 11:49:17 10/24/02

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On October 24, 2002 at 14:41:24, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On October 24, 2002 at 14:04:07, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>
>>I wonder if every or some commercial prorams has the same "panic mode" DB had.
>>Sometimes I gues they does have one. At leats after some move that does make
>>them happy, I have observed that time allotment change, depth of the search
>>deepens and so on. Chris, Ed?
>>Fernndo
>
>
>I think that since Bert and I first published the "using time wisely" paper in
>the JICCA
>many years ago, _everybody_ has been doing that in some form or another.  For
>years,
>we watched people bouncing up and down in their chairs hoping their program
>would
>see that the move it was about to play was the wrong move because the score had
>dropped
>way down.  The only question was could their machine find a better move before
>running
>out of time.
>
>We decided to stop doing that and added the "fail-low time extension" idea and
>then reported
>on it at the next ACM event.

Do you have a copy of that paper?



>The next year everybody was doing something that
>seemed very
>logical to me a couple of years earlier...
>
>The only question is how you define "panic mode".  Deep Blue had something more
>refined
>that just "the score dropped" but I never followed Hsu's explanation since it
>was very brief and
>unclear (to me).  Something like "if the size of the tree can't be expressed in
>a canonical form,
>then we consider the tree to be unstable."
>
>His idea worked, even if I didn't understand how it worked.  But it would use
>more time in
>positions where it had not yet failed low, which was the important point.



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