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Subject: Re: Computer - WorldChampion: which result would satisfy everybody here?

Author: Janosch Zwerensky

Date: 13:54:28 10/24/02

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>That is even if it was possible for a
>machine to play absolutely perfect chess (i.e. 32-man tablebases!) a human GM
>could still draw with the White pieces by refusing to undertake anything even
>remotely resembling playing for a win by employing a supercautious approach.

I think this would come down to the playing style of the perfect player. I'd
expect the drawing path for chess to be narrow enough to allow a very aggressive
perfect player to win 10-0 with black against even the best humans. I do however
not have much reasoning to offer in favor of this belief, I'd have to concede
(though humans have clearly over-estimated drawing chances at least in a couple
of endgames before they were solved by retroanalysis).
On a sidenote, I wonder how high a top GM who has experience in advanced chess
would win over an "unarmed" world champion if he were allowed to consult a
top-end computer during the game. It wouldn't be 10-0, but I guess they would be
ahead clearly.

>Anyway, because of the above there's never going to be a 10-0 or 20-0 defeat of
>a human world champion especially since 32-man tablebase are impossible (it's
>hard to see how some 10 to the 42nd power number of positions could ever be
>stored and recalled).

I don't think we can *really* prove that OTB tournament time control perfect
play isn't doable with the right programming on currently available standard PC
hardware (no, I don't believe this of course, but I do doubt that you'd need to
either analyze or store *all* of these 10^42 positions to achieve perfect play).

Regards,
Janosch



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