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Subject: Re: We Need a Chess Engine Designed to Play Speculative Chess

Author: Bob Durrett

Date: 14:35:52 10/24/02

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On October 24, 2002 at 14:33:30, Sally Weltrop wrote:

>On October 24, 2002 at 13:20:53, Bob Durrett wrote:
>
>>On October 24, 2002 at 13:13:44, Sally Weltrop wrote:
>>
>>>On October 24, 2002 at 13:09:46, Bob Durrett wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Such an engine would search for and find moves which meet the same criteria used
>>>>by human GMs when they try to decide whether or not to play a risky but
>>>>promising move.
>>>>
>>>>Why do this?  Answer:  It might be fun to play against such a monster.
>>>>Especially if it were very innovative and creative in selection of it's
>>>>sacrifices.
>>>>
>>>>Here, I am talking about a chess engine designed to accept some calculated
>>>>risks.  Not the current crop which always tries to play the "best" move.
>>>>
>>>>The chess engines are already good enough to whip most of us.  Why not try to
>>>>find ways to make their play more interesting?  Having them play some
>>>>speculative chess would add interest.  They would still whip most of us even if
>>>>some of the speculative sacs proved to be unsound.
>>>>
>>>>The engine should be programmed to play speculative moves such that the
>>>>refutation is very hard to find.
>>>
>>>Chess System Tal
>>>WChess
>>>MChess
>>>Virtual Chess
>>>
>>>and I am sure there are plenty more that I haven't thought of
>>>>
>>>>Bob D.
>>
>>Thanks, Sally.  But are they any good?  I was really thinking about having a
>>program at the top level.  One which might be used successfully against top GMs.
>
>Unless your Tal speculative moves will fail against the top GM's so you'll never
>find one there. All the programs I mentioned you should try sometime. You will
>find they can beat most rated players even GM's
>>
>>I fear that the examples you quoted may be the "pathfinders" or "first
>>attempts." Or, worse, just ways to test the market.
>>
>>Bob D.

How could I configure a suitable test?  Playing against them myself would prove
nothing since I'm just a chess amateur.

How to test?

Bob D.



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