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Subject: Re: Just comparing lists...

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 01:46:18 10/25/02

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On October 25, 2002 at 04:31:59, Aloisio Ponti Lopes wrote:

>On October 25, 2002 at 02:53:19, José Carlos wrote:
>
>>
>>  Nonsense comparison.
>>  A football team changes players everyday, while a chess program is a single
>>and independent entity. Fritz 4 and Fritz 7 are two different programs;
>>computing their rating together is like computing two tenis players rating
>>together: nonsense.
>>
>>  José C.
>
>I don't agree with that. Fritz 7 differs not too much from Fritz 6. Deep Fritz 7
>and Deep Fritz 6, you won't tell anybody that's "two completely different
>programs".

Fritz7 and Fritz6 are different programs.

>Brazil can have 10 or more soccer teams to fight at FIFA's championships or
>World Cups, the same for Argentina (don't really know if there are too many good
>german-borned soccer players). But that obviously would make the ranking much
>boring.
>
>My question is: WHY SSDF doesn't have at the same list Crafty 16.01 - 16.19 +
>17.x + 18.x + 19... ? what's the difference in rating points between them?
>
>I don't see where the nonsense is.
>For me it's nonsense to have a list with 10 Fritzes and call that a serious
>list. If you don't play Fritz a x Fritz b you're not a serious chess player; but
>if you do and Fritz n wins rating points you're inflating the rating.


Fritza is better than Fritzb in the rating list thanks to it's result against
other programs and not thanks to Fritz-Fritz matches.

 So the
>whole thing is messed up, I think. Do that at a chess server and you'll be in
>the abuser list!
>
>SSDF list, is it a _S_hredder/_D_eep _F_ritz list?
>
>Can't believe there's just to much marketing involved just to sell Fritz.
>
>Why not Century, Century 2, 3, 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, 4, XP ?

Century was not tested because it is a dos program and does not support the
autoplayer correctly.

>
>Will SSDF test Ruffian? What about Yace?

I think that they will.

>
>What's the interest in "R30 v 2.5", with a gap of almost 200 points below
>Crafty?

Different people have different interests.

>
>Why the hell CHESSMASTER _NEVER_, I mean _NEVER_ gets to run with Athlon 1200 ?

Chessmaster also had problems in supporting the autoplayer.
I do not know about CM9000 but I do not believe that they test it not on
Athlon1200.

>
>Just questions made by many people that were never answered. Don't tell that's
>because "fixing the hardware and playing many games with it, you'll know the
>strengh". Please give CM 9000, Hiarcs and Nimzo a good hardware, point. Please
>retire that R30 v 2.5, it's completely obsolete.
>
>A. Ponti

Hiarcs8 got the A1200.
The rule is that new programs get the best hardware.

Uri



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