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Subject: Re: Just comparing lists...

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 03:29:07 10/25/02

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On October 25, 2002 at 06:09:04, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On October 25, 2002 at 05:57:35, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On October 25, 2002 at 05:50:07, Sune Fischer wrote:
>>
>>>On October 25, 2002 at 00:10:20, Aloisio Ponti Lopes wrote:
>>>
>>>I don't like format either, in principle Christophe could make Tigers 15_a, 15_b
>>>and 15_c (minor updates of some form) and take the first three spots with,
>>>basicly, the same program!
>>>
>>>It is pretty rediculous, one author - one entry!
>>>
>>>I think they are doing it like that for users with old versions, they would like
>>>to see how much better the new version is, should they go out and buy it or not,
>>>that sort of thing. For that you need the comparison with previous versions.
>>>
>>>Personally I am only interested in "how well does the lastest program X compare
>>>to latest program Y". Older versions simply do no longer represent what the
>>>author is capable of and are therefore NOT interesting.
>>>
>>>-S.
>>
>>They are interesting and there are cases when the older version is better so the
>>new program does not represent what the author is capable because he proved that
>>he was capable of more than the new version.
>>
>>Uri
>
>I assume you are thinking of Crafty?
>In that case I think Crafty is geared towards human games and not towards
>eng-eng matches. Hyatt has added special anti-human knowledge AFAIK, my guess is
>that that stuff is counter productive in eng-eng matches, but if the play
>against humans is better then who cares about eng-eng matches?
>
>Remember the SSDF measures only eng-eng performance.
>
>I consider eng-eng matches only to be a tool in the development of the engine,
>doing well in eng-eng matches is not a goal in itself IMO.
>
>-S.

No
I did not think only about crafty.
There were other cases when programmers released versions with no improvement or
at least it is not clear if there was an improvement:
Gandalf,Nimzo,Mchess,Genius

Uri



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