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Subject: Re: Just comparing lists...

Author: Andreas Guettinger

Date: 04:43:52 10/25/02

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On October 25, 2002 at 07:12:38, Uri Blass wrote:

>On October 25, 2002 at 06:51:45, Sune Fischer wrote:
>
>>On October 25, 2002 at 06:29:07, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>No
>>>I did not think only about crafty.
>>>There were other cases when programmers released versions with no improvement or
>>>at least it is not clear if there was an improvement:
>>>Gandalf,Nimzo,Mchess,Genius
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>Based on eng-eng matches I guess.
>>
>>-S.
>
>I think that most people care only about them.
>I do not care about games against humans because it is clearly only a question
>of time until computers beat humans at all time controls.
>
>comp-comp is the interesting struggle and being better in comp-comp can also
>help to get better results against humans.
>
>Computer also can play for the same ideas that humans play so being better at
>beating them means in most cases also being better against humans.
>
>There are programs that can play for king attack and I do not think that you
>need humans to see the problems of your program against king attack if you have
>these problems.
>
>You can let your program play against sjeng.
>
>Uri

I disagree. Better performance in eng-eng matches is no guarantee that a
programm performs better in matches against humans.

And it leads the whole computer chess development into the false direction,
with no new concepts. Learning your engine do win against "an idiot" is not a
good way to improve its chess play.

Andreas



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