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Subject: Re: Further testing of Genius 6.5: +0 =4 -46 against Ruffian

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 05:34:26 10/25/02

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On October 25, 2002 at 07:53:23, Ulrich Tuerke wrote:

>On October 25, 2002 at 04:55:37, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On October 25, 2002 at 04:43:52, Aloisio Ponti Lopes wrote:
>>
>>>On October 25, 2002 at 00:52:08, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>
>>>>Try at something other than breakneck blitz speed and see what happens.
>>>>
>>>>I expect Genius to do much better at longer time control.
>>>
>>>My list is a bullet / blitz list. I'm not searching for standard time controls.
>>>I agree with you that Genius might score better with longer time controls. The
>>>same happens to older-than-ninety-years-old-players if you give them the hole
>>>day to think about 1 move.
>>>
>>>Genius is _too_weak at bullet and blitz comparing with recent engines. Only 4
>>>draws out of 50 games against Ruffian!
>>
>>I suspect that something is wrong with the games.
>>Genius is known to be strong at fast time control.
>>
>>I know that Genius3  beated kasaprov at 25 minutes per game 1.5-.5
>>
>>only 4 draws against ruffian out of 50 games is results of engines that are
>>200-300 elo weaker than Genius.
>>It cannot be the result of genius in fair conditions.
>>
>>I suspect that the interface of Genoius6.5 is buggy and does not give genius
>>fair conditions(I do not have this interface)
>
>I think it's possible that Ruffian outsearches Genius completely on modern
>hardware.
>However, in Blitz games on 80486 architecture, Genius would do much better than
>this.
>
>Uli

48-2 seem too much for me.

ruffian even could not get more than 37.5-2.5 against my private movei at 7
minutes per game and you can be sure that movei was outsearched completely by
ruffian.

Movei even did not use book in these games and to be sure of different games it
simply always changed the first move.

Ruffian could not keep movei winless and lost 2 games.

That movei is not only outsearched by ruffian but has no knowledge about king
safety or passed pawns or weak pawns.

Genius is at similiar level to Crafty or Comet(certainly not more than 100 elo
weaker than them.

I expect it not to lose 48-2 against ruffian unless something strange
happens(for example no learning and ruffian always repeat the same game)

Uri



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