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Subject: Re: We Need a Chess Engine Designed to Play Speculative Chess

Author: Bob Durrett

Date: 05:47:53 10/25/02

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On October 25, 2002 at 01:40:38, Georg Langrath wrote:

>On October 24, 2002 at 17:47:05, Bob Durrett wrote:
>
>>On October 24, 2002 at 16:50:54, Georg Langrath wrote:
>>
>>>>Thanks, Sally.  But are they any good?  I was really thinking about having a
>>>>program at the top level.  One which might be used successfully against top GMs.
>>>
>>>
>>>I agreed to you until you said that the very speculative chessprogram should be
>>>on top level. Wouldn't it be fun enough to play against a program that made very
>>>speculative sacrifices on your own level? And much easier to realize such a
>>>program.
>>>The best try in what I mean  is Chess Tiger Suicidal. Suicidal perhaps, but not
>>>for a chessplayer that is weaker than the program.
>>>
>>>Georg
>>
>>Please forgive me if I misunderstand you, but to me "suicidal" and "sacrificial"
>>are as different as night and day.
>>
>>To me, "sacrificial chess" is a type of chess in which the sacrificial player is
>>accepting a certain amount of risk in exchange for perceived chances.
>>
>>Suicidal would be simply stupid chess.
>>
>>Incidentally, I am not interested in finding a program which plays at my
>>abysmally low level.  It must be competitive at the GM level, or it's not very
>>interesting.  This implies that the sacrifices must be sophisticated.  Like
>>Kramnik's Nxf7 for example.  Ideally, the outcome should be beyond the horizons
>>of both players, whether human or computer.
>>
>>Bob D.
>
>I think I understand what you mean. But what is a stupid move for Kramnik can be
>a smart move for me.

Me too!  :)

>And if the computer wins against me, it wasn't so stupid
>for me.

I guess "all is relative."

>And the match is much more entertaining

And that is a worthy objective!

Incidentally, you wouldn't use such a computer program [entertaining but weak]
for post-mortem analyses of GM games, nor for post-mortem analyses of your own
games either, I suspect.


>when the computer does
>sacrifices and still wins against me.
>I mean the computer gives away a bit of its strength for more entertaining
>matches. I doesn't matter if the computer still is strong enough for me

Yes, I see what you mean.  I believe that there is a market for entertaining
chess programs.

Bob D.

>
>Georg
>
>
>Georg



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