Author: Ulrich Tuerke
Date: 06:16:57 10/25/02
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On October 25, 2002 at 08:34:26, Uri Blass wrote: >On October 25, 2002 at 07:53:23, Ulrich Tuerke wrote: > >>On October 25, 2002 at 04:55:37, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On October 25, 2002 at 04:43:52, Aloisio Ponti Lopes wrote: >>> >>>>On October 25, 2002 at 00:52:08, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>> >>>>>Try at something other than breakneck blitz speed and see what happens. >>>>> >>>>>I expect Genius to do much better at longer time control. >>>> >>>>My list is a bullet / blitz list. I'm not searching for standard time controls. >>>>I agree with you that Genius might score better with longer time controls. The >>>>same happens to older-than-ninety-years-old-players if you give them the hole >>>>day to think about 1 move. >>>> >>>>Genius is _too_weak at bullet and blitz comparing with recent engines. Only 4 >>>>draws out of 50 games against Ruffian! >>> >>>I suspect that something is wrong with the games. >>>Genius is known to be strong at fast time control. >>> >>>I know that Genius3 beated kasaprov at 25 minutes per game 1.5-.5 >>> >>>only 4 draws against ruffian out of 50 games is results of engines that are >>>200-300 elo weaker than Genius. >>>It cannot be the result of genius in fair conditions. >>> >>>I suspect that the interface of Genoius6.5 is buggy and does not give genius >>>fair conditions(I do not have this interface) >> >>I think it's possible that Ruffian outsearches Genius completely on modern >>hardware. >>However, in Blitz games on 80486 architecture, Genius would do much better than >>this. >> >>Uli > >48-2 seem too much for me. > >ruffian even could not get more than 37.5-2.5 against my private movei at 7 >minutes per game and you can be sure that movei was outsearched completely by >ruffian. > >Movei even did not use book in these games and to be sure of different games it >simply always changed the first move. > >Ruffian could not keep movei winless and lost 2 games. > >That movei is not only outsearched by ruffian but has no knowledge about king >safety or passed pawns or weak pawns. > >Genius is at similiar level to Crafty or Comet(certainly not more than 100 elo >weaker than them. > >I expect it not to lose 48-2 against ruffian unless something strange >happens(for example no learning and ruffian always repeat the same game) Uri, I think that the result of a match of many games between 2 computer opponents will often exaggerate the real difference in playing strength. This could have happended here, too. Nevertheless, after thinking twice, I agree that this result looks a bit peculiar. Uli > >Uri
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