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Subject: Re: Just comparing lists...

Author: Georg v. Zimmermann

Date: 06:30:27 10/25/02

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You certainly see that you need a reference, you can just test all new programs
... you need a known rating to test against...

Else you never know about the improvement.

Soccer Brazil 2002 against the team of 1964 would be interesting no ?

Georg


On October 25, 2002 at 05:50:07, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On October 25, 2002 at 00:10:20, Aloisio Ponti Lopes wrote:
>
>I don't like format either, in principle Christophe could make Tigers 15_a, 15_b
>and 15_c (minor updates of some form) and take the first three spots with,
>basicly, the same program!
>
>It is pretty rediculous, one author - one entry!
>
>I think they are doing it like that for users with old versions, they would like
>to see how much better the new version is, should they go out and buy it or not,
>that sort of thing. For that you need the comparison with previous versions.
>
>Personally I am only interested in "how well does the lastest program X compare
>to latest program Y". Older versions simply do no longer represent what the
>author is capable of and are therefore NOT interesting.
>
>-S.
>
>>SSDF engines list:
>>
>>1 Fritz
>>2 Shredder
>>3 Tiger
>>4 Tiger
>>5 Shredder
>>6 Fritz
>>7 Junior
>>8 Rebel
>>9 Hiarcs
>>10 Shredder
>>11 Gandalf
>>12 Fritz
>>13 Gandalf
>>14 Tiger
>>15 Gandalf
>>16 Junior
>>17 Tiger
>>18 Shredder
>>19 Fritz
>>20 Fritz
>>21 Crafty...
>>
>>and the list repeats itself until appears 29. Nimzo !; 38 SOS ! and 40.
>>Chessmaster.
>>
>>In my oppinion the list should have this format:
>>
>>1. Fritz
>>2. Shredder
>>3. Tiger
>>4. Junior
>>5. Rebel
>>6. Hiarcs
>>7. Gandalf
>>8. Crafty
>>9. Nimzo
>>10. SOS
>>11. Chessmaster, etc...
>>
>>... but I doubt that if matches like Fritz-Fritz or Tiger-Tiger, etc were
>>removed from the list the ratings and standings would not change.
>>
>>Please see my bullet/blitz rating at
>>http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Track/7733/rating.txt
>>
>>... and for you guys that love soccer I'll send the "FIFA-SSDF" list:
>>
>>1. Brazil A
>>2. Germany A
>>3. Argentina A
>>4. Brazil B
>>5. Italy A
>>6. Germany B
>>7. Argentina B
>>8. Brazil C
>>9. Italy B
>>10. Germany C
>>11. Netherlands A
>>12. England A
>>13. Germany D
>>14. Brazil D
>>15. Argentina C
>>16. England B
>>17. Spain A
>>18. Spain B
>>19. Portugal A
>>20. Croacia A
>>21. Korea (only one version!)
>>22. Japan A
>>23. Brazil E
>>
>>... and the list repeats itself untill we find 44. Paraguay; 59. Uruguay; 75.
>>Cameroon... and so on...
>>Of course we won't see Argentina A x Argentina B matchs at FIFA's list...
>>
>>A. Ponti



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