Author: Sune Fischer
Date: 07:45:32 10/25/02
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On October 25, 2002 at 09:30:27, Georg v. Zimmermann wrote: >You certainly see that you need a reference, you can just test all new programs >... you need a known rating to test against... > >Else you never know about the improvement. Then my advice to Christophe is to release a Tiger 16, 17, 18,..., and 24 within the next month. Fritz will only be the 11th best program in the world and Tiger will OWN that SSDF list! How is that for marketing? :) >Soccer Brazil 2002 against the team of 1964 would be interesting no ? I don't think so, the 1964 team would get killed today. Players today train more effective, eat better and play a more physical game. If you mean in the form of "talent" then the question can't be answered because good players then would play differently today for the above mentioned reasons :) >Georg > > >On October 25, 2002 at 05:50:07, Sune Fischer wrote: > >>On October 25, 2002 at 00:10:20, Aloisio Ponti Lopes wrote: >> >>I don't like format either, in principle Christophe could make Tigers 15_a, 15_b >>and 15_c (minor updates of some form) and take the first three spots with, >>basicly, the same program! >> >>It is pretty rediculous, one author - one entry! >> >>I think they are doing it like that for users with old versions, they would like >>to see how much better the new version is, should they go out and buy it or not, >>that sort of thing. For that you need the comparison with previous versions. >> >>Personally I am only interested in "how well does the lastest program X compare >>to latest program Y". Older versions simply do no longer represent what the >>author is capable of and are therefore NOT interesting. >> >>-S. >> >>>SSDF engines list: >>> >>>1 Fritz >>>2 Shredder >>>3 Tiger >>>4 Tiger >>>5 Shredder >>>6 Fritz >>>7 Junior >>>8 Rebel >>>9 Hiarcs >>>10 Shredder >>>11 Gandalf >>>12 Fritz >>>13 Gandalf >>>14 Tiger >>>15 Gandalf >>>16 Junior >>>17 Tiger >>>18 Shredder >>>19 Fritz >>>20 Fritz >>>21 Crafty... >>> >>>and the list repeats itself until appears 29. Nimzo !; 38 SOS ! and 40. >>>Chessmaster. >>> >>>In my oppinion the list should have this format: >>> >>>1. Fritz >>>2. Shredder >>>3. Tiger >>>4. Junior >>>5. Rebel >>>6. Hiarcs >>>7. Gandalf >>>8. Crafty >>>9. Nimzo >>>10. SOS >>>11. Chessmaster, etc... >>> >>>... but I doubt that if matches like Fritz-Fritz or Tiger-Tiger, etc were >>>removed from the list the ratings and standings would not change. >>> >>>Please see my bullet/blitz rating at >>>http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Track/7733/rating.txt >>> >>>... and for you guys that love soccer I'll send the "FIFA-SSDF" list: >>> >>>1. Brazil A >>>2. Germany A >>>3. Argentina A >>>4. Brazil B >>>5. Italy A >>>6. Germany B >>>7. Argentina B >>>8. Brazil C >>>9. Italy B >>>10. Germany C >>>11. Netherlands A >>>12. England A >>>13. Germany D >>>14. Brazil D >>>15. Argentina C >>>16. England B >>>17. Spain A >>>18. Spain B >>>19. Portugal A >>>20. Croacia A >>>21. Korea (only one version!) >>>22. Japan A >>>23. Brazil E >>> >>>... and the list repeats itself untill we find 44. Paraguay; 59. Uruguay; 75. >>>Cameroon... and so on... >>>Of course we won't see Argentina A x Argentina B matchs at FIFA's list... >>> >>>A. Ponti
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