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Subject: Re: Just comparing lists...

Author: Aaron Tay

Date: 10:06:29 10/25/02

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On October 25, 2002 at 12:25:27, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On October 25, 2002 at 12:04:50, Aaron Tay wrote:
>
>>On October 25, 2002 at 12:00:57, Sune Fischer wrote:
>>
>>>On October 25, 2002 at 11:40:00, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 25, 2002 at 11:25:49, Sune Fischer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On October 25, 2002 at 11:17:28, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On October 25, 2002 at 10:45:32, Sune Fischer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On October 25, 2002 at 09:30:27, Georg v. Zimmermann wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You certainly see that you need a reference, you can just test all new programs
>>>>>>>>... you need a known rating to test against...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Else you never know about the improvement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Then my advice to Christophe is to release a Tiger 16, 17, 18,..., and 24 within
>>>>>>>the next month. Fritz will only be the 11th best program in the world and Tiger
>>>>>>>will OWN that SSDF list!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The ssdf have not infinite number of testers and if christophe releases too many
>>>>>>tigers then I guess that part of them are not going to be tested.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>
>>>>>How unfair, there should be consistency in the rules!
>>>>>If there can be 10 fritzes why can't there be 10 tigers? ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>-S.
>>>>
>>>>There can be but not if they released in a short time.
>>>
>>>Wrong.
>>>Chess Tiger 14 and Gambit Tiger 2 was released at the same time as far as I
>>>know, and they are both on the list.
>>>Perhaps it would help if Christope gave them different names then: Tiger Kitten,
>>>Tiger Sharp Claws, Tiger ColorBlind.. whatever.
>>>
>>>>SSDF did not test Fritz7.0.0.1,Fritz7.0.0.2 and Fritz7.0.0.8 as different
>>>>programs
>>>
>>>How strange.
>>
>>Hate to point out the obvious . But Given that customers pay seperately to get
>>Fritz 6, 7, DF 7 whatever, surely, it makes sense to test those seperately so
>>customers can decide whether to upgrade?
>
>But they don't pay seperately for CT and GT :)
>
>>Not sure how you handle cases like Crafty which are free though.
>>Also the case of Chess Tiger 14/GT 2. Otherwise Chessmaster (if tested) could
>>have a dozen entries , one for each personality.
>
>Yeah, that is my point :)
>
>I think the "real" SSDF list should be a one author - one entry list, the main
>reason for that is that the SSDF is considered an author ranking list (IMO
>anyway) and you shouldn't be able to push down your competeters by simply
>releasing new versions.
>
>Crafty for instance has been pushed way down to 21st, quite confusing I think.
>
>However, I think they should keep a link to a version of the list as it is now,
>since that list has some other valuable information.
>
>-S.
>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>-S.



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