Author: Uri Blass
Date: 10:11:39 10/25/02
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On October 25, 2002 at 12:25:27, Sune Fischer wrote: >On October 25, 2002 at 12:04:50, Aaron Tay wrote: > >>On October 25, 2002 at 12:00:57, Sune Fischer wrote: >> >>>On October 25, 2002 at 11:40:00, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On October 25, 2002 at 11:25:49, Sune Fischer wrote: >>>> >>>>>On October 25, 2002 at 11:17:28, Uri Blass wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On October 25, 2002 at 10:45:32, Sune Fischer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On October 25, 2002 at 09:30:27, Georg v. Zimmermann wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>You certainly see that you need a reference, you can just test all new programs >>>>>>>>... you need a known rating to test against... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Else you never know about the improvement. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Then my advice to Christophe is to release a Tiger 16, 17, 18,..., and 24 within >>>>>>>the next month. Fritz will only be the 11th best program in the world and Tiger >>>>>>>will OWN that SSDF list! >>>>>> >>>>>>The ssdf have not infinite number of testers and if christophe releases too many >>>>>>tigers then I guess that part of them are not going to be tested. >>>>>> >>>>>>Uri >>>>> >>>>>How unfair, there should be consistency in the rules! >>>>>If there can be 10 fritzes why can't there be 10 tigers? ;) >>>>> >>>>>-S. >>>> >>>>There can be but not if they released in a short time. >>> >>>Wrong. >>>Chess Tiger 14 and Gambit Tiger 2 was released at the same time as far as I >>>know, and they are both on the list. >>>Perhaps it would help if Christope gave them different names then: Tiger Kitten, >>>Tiger Sharp Claws, Tiger ColorBlind.. whatever. >>> >>>>SSDF did not test Fritz7.0.0.1,Fritz7.0.0.2 and Fritz7.0.0.8 as different >>>>programs >>> >>>How strange. >> >>Hate to point out the obvious . But Given that customers pay seperately to get >>Fritz 6, 7, DF 7 whatever, surely, it makes sense to test those seperately so >>customers can decide whether to upgrade? > >But they don't pay seperately for CT and GT :) > >>Not sure how you handle cases like Crafty which are free though. >>Also the case of Chess Tiger 14/GT 2. Otherwise Chessmaster (if tested) could >>have a dozen entries , one for each personality. > >Yeah, that is my point :) > >I think the "real" SSDF list should be a one author - one entry list, the main >reason for that is that the SSDF is considered an author ranking list (IMO >anyway) and you shouldn't be able to push down your competeters by simply >releasing new versions. In this case the list is going to be useless. Most users are interested in the list to find which program is the best. They are not interested to know what is the rating of Fritz1. Your idea means that after Fritz1 was tested many years ago no new version of Fritz can be tested. Uri
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