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Subject: Re: Requested positional positions please

Author: Mike S.

Date: 21:48:13 10/26/02

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I had included 10 positional positions in my previous test, which I selected
from 5 other testsets (2 from each). IOW, I tried to select the most convincing
ones. But still, I'm not satisfied with this type of test positions. Too many
doubts, i.e. it may be that the move order isn't really forced, there is a 2nd
(tactical) alternative which may be even stronger, etc.

(Currently I don't use positional tests anymore. Maybe that part of an engines
strenght should better be judged by it's games... altough, you can't convert
"judgement" into numbers like test results.)

r1b2rk1/1p2qppp/1bn1p3/p3P3/8/PNQ3P1/1P1B1PBP/R4RK1 b - - bm a4; id M22#25;
r5k1/p2r1bpp/2p2p2/8/n1P5/P5B1/5PPP/2R1RBK1 w - - bm c5; id M22#26;
3r1bk1/p4ppp/Qp2p3/8/1P1B4/Pq2P1P1/2r2P1P/R3R1K1 b - - bm e5; id M22#27;
7k/4K1n1/8/6P1/8/3B4/8/8 w - - bm Bg6; id M22#28;
r3nrk1/ppq2pbp/2n1b1p1/4pP2/2P5/4BNN1/PP4PP/RQ2KB1R b KQ - bm e4; id M22#29;
8/p2Q2p1/1k3qbp/1pn5/2p4P/2P2P2/5BPK/5B2 w - - bm g3; id M22#30;
2r2rk1/1p1bq3/p3p2p/3pPpp1/1P1Q4/P7/2P2PPP/2R1RBK1 b - - bm Bb5; id M22#31;
r1n1kb1r/1b3pp1/1qn1p3/p2pP1Bp/Qp1P1N1P/5NPB/PP3P2/2R1R1K1 w kq - bm Nxe6; id
M22#32;
1r1r2k1/2b1qp1p/b1p3p1/p1p1p3/2P1P3/1PN1BP2/P1Q3PP/R2R2K1 b - - bm Rd4; id
M22#33;
r4k2/2p5/P1pp1n1p/2r2qp1/Q7/6BP/2P2PP1/R3R1K1 w - - bm c4; id M22#34;

(M22 = Mike's Test 2.2)

#28 is a tablebase position. You can decide if you want to test it without tbs.;
the idea is to limit the maneuvrability of the opponent's last piece.

#22 is in fact more tactical IMO.

In #32, Bxe6 is probably equal to Nxe6.

In #34 there'a tactical alternative with the rook maneuvre Ra1-a3-f3!, etc (the
idea of the solution move c4 is to prevent Black from playing ...Rb5 and keep
the b-file open for white threats directed at b7/b8. An immediate a6-a7 would be
weaker.)

The WM-Test(100) contains 36 positional tests. See (P) in the EPD id each (not
continously numbered).

http://www.computerschach.de/test/WM-Test%20(100pos).zip

The download includes various data formats, and also many results for
comaprison. Btw. Ruffian 1.0.0 has a very good result in the positional part of
that test, among several Fritz' at the top.

Regards,
M.Scheidl



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