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Subject: Re: Advanced Chess?

Author: Roy Eassa

Date: 09:08:24 10/27/02

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On October 27, 2002 at 01:30:09, Ingo Althofer wrote:

>On October 26, 2002 at 16:06:21, Roy Eassa wrote:
>>
>>What would be the result of a match between a top GM and, say, Deep Fritz 7
>>running on Bahrain-level hardware, if the top GM were able to consult an
>>outdated chess program running on fairly slow hardware (to avoid blunders)?
>
>(I) Kasparov proposed such a setting already in summer 1996. After the win of
>his first match against Deep Blue negotiations for the revenge started. Kasparov
>surprised IBM by a far-reaching proposal:
>"In the revenge, please allow me to use during the games a normal notebook (with
>at most 150 MHz in those days) with
>(a) an opening book
>(b) endgames data bases
>(c) some standard commercial chess program for tactical checks."
>IBM did not permit this sort of help.
>


Fascinating piece of information!  I did not know about this -- thanks for the
info!


>(II) In summer 2000 GM Rainer Knaak (Elo 2510) played an experimental match
>under tournament time rules. He had the help of Fritz6 on a notebook with 233
>MHz (P-II). The opponents were other chess programs on a PC with 500 MHz. The
>results were
>Knaak + fritz   vs.  CHESSTIGER   3  -1   (+2,=2,-0)
>Knaak + fritz   vs.  SHREDDER5    2.5-1.5 (+2,=1,-1)
>There was a report on this experiment in the ICGA Journal.
>
>For the first half of 2003 another experiment of this type is in preparation at
>Jena University:
>A GM with Elo 2500+ together with help from a 233 MHz notebook shall play a
>series of active chess games against single programs on a faster PC (probably
>with 1533 MHz).
>


I look forward to that.  Thanks again for great info!


>
>>[Imagine Kramnik plus, say, Fritz 5.32 running on, say, a 400 MHz P-II versus
>>Deep Fritz 7 running on the Bahrain hardware or better if available.  Assume
>>that the old program has no opening book and no tablebases -- it's just there to
>>sanity-check tactics to a moderate level.]
>
>Fritz 5.32 would be a good such helper because of its enormous tactical
>strength. Concretely, Kramnik would not have blundered in round 5, and very
>probable Fritz5.32 would have shown him that the attack in round 6 does not go
>through.
>
>Ingo Althofer.



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