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Subject: Re: Old Chess Masters vs Computers

Author: Bob Durrett

Date: 19:41:36 10/27/02

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On October 27, 2002 at 21:39:21, Mike Byrne wrote:

>On October 27, 2002 at 21:29:06, Bob Durrett wrote:
>
>>On October 27, 2002 at 21:18:51, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>>Bottom line - Computers have raised the bar in terms of expectations from GM
>>>players - in general, I think top GMs of today are better than top GMs of
>>>yesteryear -- as today's top athlete's are better than yesteryear.  <snip>
>>
>>
>>The following is somewhat "far out," but:
>>
>>
>>Today's top athlete's are better than yesteryear???
>
>It sounds like you're the one "far out" -- have you been to Mars lately?
>
>The top atheletes of today are bigger, stronger faster and better - than
>yesteryear.  Why should that surprise you?  If nothing else, there are more
>people on this planet than 50 years ago -- if you been here on earth you might
>have noticed - that alone could account for the difference.
>
>End of discussion - it's not related to computer chess at this point and I'm not
>taking it to the CTF.
>
><balance of nonsense snipped>

Hmmm.  Sounds like I hit a sore spot.

Well, I still feel that the current crop of GMs have no more latent talent than
the GMs of yesteryear.  It is true that there are more people in the world
today.  Maybe that makes Kasparov at his peak stronger than Fischer was at his
peak?

Truly we are merely expressing our feelings.  I feel that modern GMs are not
superior [i.e. bigger, stronger faster and better], although they have more
games and game analyses to look at in their databases. And, yes, the
availability of CB8 does provide better access.  But I wouldn't go so far as to
suggest that the modern chess engines make the modern GMs even one point
stronger!

Neither of us can substantiate or prove the correctness of our feelings.  That's
OK by me.  It's also OK by me if your feelings are different from mine.

Bob D.



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