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Subject: Re: Old Chess Masters vs Computers

Author: Brian Katz

Date: 20:21:18 10/27/02

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On October 27, 2002 at 20:31:07, Jeffrey Wadsworth wrote:

>On October 27, 2002 at 19:03:55, Arshad Syed wrote:
>
>>One can't help but notice the difference in quality between the games played by
>>masters from a previous era such as Lasker, Tal, Fischer, Capablanca etc. The
>>games were so unique and singular, you couldn't help but remember some feature
>>of the game which made it really spectacular. For instance, a Queen sacrifice or
>>multiple piece sacrifices. By contrast, even the World Championship games of
>>recent times have nothing distinguishing which etches them in memory. This might
>>probably because of the closing gap between the top class players.
>>
>>Anyway, I was wondering how those masters would have coped with the chess
>>programs of today. Anyone here replay the positions from some of those legacy
>>masterpieces? One good one for example, would be the Queen sacrifice by Fischer
>>versus Byrne. Would he really be able to carry that through against Deep Fritz
>>or would he end up like Kramnik ... "...it could have been the most beautiful
>>game of my life."
>>
>>Regards,
>>Arshad
>
>
>
>My favorite game to check out with my chess engines is Botvinnik vs Tal game 6
>from their first championship match in 1960.  21...n-f4 is pretty sweet but the
>followup move 24...f3 allows white a chance to win it.  It is incredibly deep.
>
>Going over the old master's games...hard to beat.

Here is a great game to play over especially the outstanding Ba3 move played by
Botvinnik vs Capablanca 1938
Here is the game score and diagram after 30.Ba3... which is so deep that
programs on my 350 MHz Pentium II have trouble finding it. Perhaps, those of you
with faster processors will find that your program actually selects this move
like Botvinnik did.
Those of you who have not seen this game are in for real treat. Enjoy!

Botvinnik,Mikhail - Capablanca,Jose Raul [E49]
AVRO Holland, 1938

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e3 d5 5.a3 Bxc3+ 6.bxc3 c5 7.cxd5 exd5 8.Bd3 0-0
9.Ne2 b6 10.0-0 Ba6 11.Bxa6 Nxa6 12.Bb2 Qd7 13.a4 Rfe8 14.Qd3 c4 15.Qc2 Nb8
16.Rae1 Nc6 17.Ng3 Na5 18.f3 Nb3 19.e4 Qxa4 20.e5 Nd7 21.Qf2 g6 22.f4 f5 23.exf6
Nxf6 24.f5 Rxe1 25.Rxe1 Re8 26.Re6 Rxe6 27.fxe6 Kg7 28.Qf4 Qe8 29.Qe5 Qe7
30.Ba3...

[D]8/p3q1kp/1p2Pnp1/3pQ3/2pP4/BnP3N1/6PP/6K1 b

...Qxa3 31.Nh5+ gxh5 32.Qg5+ Kf8 33.Qxf6+ Kg8 34.e7 Qc1+ 35.Kf2 Qc2+ 36.Kg3 Qd3+
37.Kh4 Qe4+ 38.Kxh5 Qe2+ 39.Kh4 Qe4+ 40.g4 Qe1+ 41.Kh5 1-0

Regards
Brian Katz





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