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Subject: Re: Ply 'n+1' searches lesser nodes than 'n'

Author: Nagendra Singh Tomar

Date: 02:02:13 10/28/02

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On October 28, 2002 at 04:52:26, Uri Blass wrote:

>On October 28, 2002 at 04:24:24, Nagendra Singh Tomar wrote:
>
>>On October 28, 2002 at 02:45:33, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On October 28, 2002 at 02:00:06, Nagendra Singh Tomar wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 28, 2002 at 01:48:02, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On October 28, 2002 at 01:17:41, Nagendra Singh Tomar wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>What all reasons can you think of for a ply 'n+1' searching lesser nodes than
>>>>>>ply 'n' search.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>regds
>>>>>>tomar
>>>>>
>>>>>The most obvious is a ply n search had really bad move ordering that gets much
>>>>>improved for ply n+1 thanks to the hash moves saved in the hash table.
>>>>
>>>>correct.
>>>>
>>>>One more reason can ne that 'n' was just small enough to deny null-move.
>>>>null-move in 'n+1' ply search saved a lot of nodes.
>>>
>>>I use null move from the first ply so there is not n that is small enough to
>>>deny null move.
>>>
>>>The only case when I do not start by checking null move is when the remaining
>>>depth is 0 or in some other special cases when I suspect a zugzwang.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>But the idea behind null move is to try first with a lesser depth search and see
>>if it fails high ..
>>if you start null move search from first ply .. what is the "lesser depth" you
>>are going to try for ply 1 and even 2
>>
>>regds
>>tomar
>
>depth 0 is less than 1 or 2.
>
>Uri

Do you really believe depth 0's result so much as to trust it for a fail high.

tomar




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