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Subject: Re: Question regarding hashing and move ordering

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 08:29:40 10/29/02

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On October 28, 2002 at 19:39:15, Nagendra Singh Tomar wrote:

>I am using iterative deepening with transposition tables. Suppose at some
>point in the match I have a board that is say stored in hash with stored depth
>10. So when iterative deepening searches that position with increasing depth,
>till depth 10 hash_probe will return the stored position and so alphabeta
>returns instantly. Since I am not using some hash2pv kind of function, I get a
>PV length of 1 with the best hash move being on the PV. But now when the
>iterative deepening searches for depth 11, the (stored_depth>= depth) clause
>is not true inside hash_probe and hence it does not return the stored
>position.

Just because the draft was insufficient to let you take the score as good and
produce a cutoff, you _still_ use the hash move as the first move to search at
this ply...


>Now alphabeta is on its own with no PV to help it order the moves
>(just some help from the hash inmove ordering). In such cases my program takes
>an unusually *long* time to search the next iteration (11th in this example).
>This reminds me of the days when I was not using iterative deepening and
>searching to a fixed depth.
>Is this normal behaviour, or dies it say something about the inefficiency of
>the hash ?
>What do we do to avoid this ?
>
>regds
>tomar



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