Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 08:51:30 10/29/02
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On October 29, 2002 at 06:04:26, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On October 28, 2002 at 13:00:03, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >So you want me to lose more time, apart from the extra time i >already lose, because i'm on a supercomputer and can only do >manually things? What are you talking about? I can run xboard on a unix supercomputer, have it connect to the local tournament FICS server, pipe the x-display to a local machine in the tournament hall to watch the game. I can run Xboard on the local machine in the tournament hall, have it connect to the remote "supercomputer" and run the chess engine, and interface to the local FICS server. I _really_ don't understand why you don't want to consider this. I _know_ it isn't because "it can't be done" because not only _can_ it be done, it _has_ been done. > >Also i wonder how you get to work bugfree programs like fritz >with winboard. They don't want to play on some FICS thing but >on a chessbase server. The junior guys want to play on kasparovchess >only and not on any other server (protocol). Junior plays on ICC so they certainly have a winboard or whatever interface already working. If we make this the "standard" then people can either choose to participate or not, as they wish. I found winboard easy to implement. It took me one night during the Christmas break in late 1994 and I was "up and going". > >And i have my own preference too and it ain't FICS either but >manually as i can't connect automatically yet to the supercomputer. Sure you can. SGI uses unix. There is _absolutely_ no problem in connecting them to any chess server... > >I need to go through some firewalls and then a relogin to another >partition. Winboard ain't doing that for me. SSH / xboard will do it however... > >>On October 28, 2002 at 12:56:37, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: >> >>>On October 28, 2002 at 12:43:27, Günther Simon wrote: >>> >>>>Why the *cough* about Arena Gian-Carlo? I also had some doubts about in the >>>>beginning of its development and there were some buggy betas around but IMHO >>>>it is pretty stable now and BTW you know that _almost all_ buggy games >>>>under Arena which were posted here were buggy because of Human errors in >>>>setting up the GUI or their machines (or they simply used outdated betas >>>>of it when much better versions were already around). >>>>I would like to test it much more but until now I am satisfied with >>>>WB most of the time - give the new version another attempt and I am pretty >>>>sure you'll overthink your above statement. >>> >>>You do not have to convince me. Convince the people who have lost >>>games because of bugs in Arena. >>> >>>My choice for an interface is still the Shredder (Classic) >>>interface which does everything I want it to and is extremely >>>solid. It's easy enough to operate that even my girlfriend can >>>do it without mistakes. >>> >>>ChessPartner 5.2 is also looking solid now, and I'd consider >>>it an option as well. >>> >>>I would not use any ChessBase interface if only because of >>>their buggy implementation of UCI. And as far as I know, you >>>*still* cannot adjust the clocks in that interface. >>> >>>I would not use WinBoard because you cannot adjust the clocks, >>>or see most engine output. >> >>That is the _point_ in winboard's favor. No clock adjustment is >>needed. Just run the event via a local FICS installed on a machine in >>the tournament hall. >> >>Seeing engine output is trivial. "tail -f logfile" works for me just >>fine.. >> >> >>> >>>I would not use Arena because in every tournament I go to >>>I see people get into problems because it has bugs. >>> >>>>BTW good luck with further improvements of (Deep) Sjeng :) >>> >>>Thank you! >>> >>>-- >>>GCP
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