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Subject: Re: Do you have pos. of truly unexpected sac. which is sound? Does it exist?

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 17:11:29 10/31/02

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On October 31, 2002 at 17:44:34, Dadi Jonsson wrote:

>On October 31, 2002 at 17:34:33, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On October 31, 2002 at 17:32:12, Dadi Jonsson wrote:
>>
>>>The following sac was "truly unexpected". The player of the black pieces wrote a
>>>book(?) including this game and said he nearly fell off his chair when he saw
>>>White's next move. It is understandable that the move was unexpected. White
>>>sacrifice's his rook for the pawn on e6, which is thoroughly protected by two
>>>other pawns. Few human beings would have the imagination required to even start
>>>thinking about this possibility. This move is on Tim Krabbe's list of the
>>>greatest moves ever played.
>>>
>>>In spite of the above, this may not be such a spectacular move to a chess
>>>program! Many of them will find this move, given enough time. I believe that the
>>>original poster was asking for "truly unexpected sac" for us human beings and
>>>that is a different story!
>>>
>>> [D] rn1r2k1/pq1p1ppp/3Rp3/2p5/2P1b3/4QNP1/P3PPBP/3R2K1 w - -
>>
>>They tend to find Morphy's brilliant moves quickly.  His tactical greatness
>>seems to be easily matched by modern hardware.
>
>This game was played in 1990, so it wasn't Morphy who found this move. I also
>think that few (if any) programs would find this move under tournament
>time-controls (unless you piled a number of CPUs on it).

No program I have tried finds it by search, but many of them have it in their
opening book.  For example:

book off
[ black, 1 ]
rn1r2k1/pq1p1ppp/3Rp3/2p5/2P1b3/4QNP1/P3PPBP/3R2K1 w - -

rn1r2k1/pq1p1ppp/3Rp3/2p5/2P1b3/4QNP1/P3PPBP/3R2K1 w - -
    -> increment adds 1440 s to soft time limit
    -> soft time limit 3154.28 s
    -> hard time limit 41599.9 s
  5 ->   0:00.63    39622   0 turns
  6     20   112    72441  Qe3xc5  Nb8-c6  Qc5-h5  Ra8-b8  Nf3-h4  Be4xg2
  6 ->   0:01.45   111195   0 turns
  7     38  2155   245373  Qe3xc5  Nb8-c6  Qc5-h5  Be4-c2  Nf3-g5  Bc2xd1
                           Qh5xf7  Kg8-h8  Bg2xc6
  7 ->   0:33.63   430188   0 turns
  8     26  4049  1035990  Qe3xc5  Nb8-c6  Qc5-h5  Qb7-c7  Nf3-g5  Be4-g6
                           Qh5-g4  Bg6-f5
  8 ->   0:43.23  1571208   0 turns
  9     32  5664  4154179  Qe3xc5  Nb8-c6  Qc5-e3  Be4-c2  Rd1-c1  Qb7-b4
                           Qe3-d2  Bc2-f5  Qd2xb4  Nc6xb4  Nf3-d4
  9 ->   1:14.15  7939978   0 turns
 10     21 10025 13030104  Qe3xc5  Nb8-c6  Qc5-h5  Be4-g6
 10 ->   2:27.33 22695099   0 turns
 11     69 31216 52526167  Qe3xc5  Nb8-c6  Qc5-h5  Ph7-h6  Nf3-g5  Be4-g6
                           Qh5-g4  Bg6-f5  Qg4-h4  Ph6xg5  Bg2xc6  Pg5xh4
                           Bc6xb7
 11 ->   6:19.08 67376551   0 turns
 12     50 63216 113026745  Qe3xc5  Nb8-c6  Qc5-h5  Qb7-c7  Qh5-h4  Be4-g6
                           Nf3-e1  Pf7-f6  Bg2xc6  Pd7xc6  Qh4-d4  Rd8xd6
                           Qd4xd6  Qc7-c8  Qd6-e7
 12 ->  15:32.99 170993295   0 turns
interrupted
search aborted
Depth=13, Value=50, Time=955.95, Last turn=0.07, Nodes=175476245, N/s=183562
PV = Qe3xc5  Nb8-c6  Qc5-h5  Qb7-c7  Qh5-h4  Be4-g6  Nf3-e1  Pf7-f6
     Bg2xc6  Pd7xc6  Qh4-d4  Rd8xd6  Qd4xd6  Qc7-c8  Qd6-e7
[ Solution incorrect   0.00%, 0/4 ]
book
book on
[ black, 1 ]
rn1r2k1/pq1p1ppp/3Rp3/2p5/2P1b3/4QNP1/P3PPBP/3R2K1 w - -

rn1r2k1/pq1p1ppp/3Rp3/2p5/2P1b3/4QNP1/P3PPBP/3R2K1 w - -
   0      0       0      0  book2 Rd6xe6
[ Solution incorrect   0.00%, 0/5 ]



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